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05-28-2024, 07:13 AM | #31 |
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05-28-2024, 09:23 AM | #32 | |
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05-28-2024, 09:45 AM | #33 | |
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I worked for pff very briefly (2 seasons) but i have no loyalty to them at all and as somebody who has coached this sport I am very much old school when it comes to analytics. My only point is that the notion that you cant analyse a play because you don't know the specific assignment is reductive at best. |
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05-28-2024, 09:51 AM | #34 |
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Obviously it's not a perfect science but when it comes to grading players nothing is. I like PFF overall, especially their draft content and draft board.
Also when the Chiefs sign some aging veteran like Mike Pennel I like to see what they generally excelled at over the years. Overall PFF definately has their uses. The year the Chiefs drafted Chenal, George, and McDuffie a guy on their draft show called them the "PFF Kansas City Chiefs." They drafted the highest player on their board three out of the first four selections and it was a home run draft. That's a huge feather in their cal. The Chiefs did have a moment like that in the last draft too. The safety they took in the fourth round knocked the PFF guys off their feet. They loved it, instantly declared one of the biggest steals in the draft. Fun times. |
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05-28-2024, 10:13 AM | #35 | |
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Football is too complex with too many pieces to be analyzed in that way and broken down to a number. |
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05-28-2024, 11:22 AM | #36 | |
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PFF grades from my understanding is largely a measurement of efficency they are not trying to overly analyse scheme. Box scores, QBR, and any other statistics by your argument are useless because football is "too complex" Last edited by Danguardace; 05-28-2024 at 11:28 AM.. |
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05-28-2024, 11:40 AM | #37 | |
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I'll give you a good example of how PFF is shitty. There was a play in the Chiefs vs. Ravens AFC Championship game where Travis Kelce admitted he didn't agree with the play call being changed and he freelanced a route that wasn't in the play call. He admits this put Patrick in a bad position where he ended up having to scramble around and then end up throwing to Kelce late out of desperation. Kelce had to make an amazing diving catch for the completion. On that play, Mahomes would have been downgraded because the pass wasn't "accurate" because some jackass at PFF who doesn't understand shit about the game saw that Kelce had to dive to make the catch. So, **** off with your "I coached the game" and that makes PFF legitimate bullshit. |
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05-28-2024, 12:13 PM | #38 |
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PFF loved William Bartee.
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05-28-2024, 12:14 PM | #39 | |
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05-28-2024, 12:18 PM | #41 | |
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Whatever reerun, go back trying to turn your tv on with the calculator. Christ you're a stupid **** |
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05-28-2024, 12:20 PM | #43 |
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05-28-2024, 12:24 PM | #45 |
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People fear what they do not understand
Pff grades are purely a measurement of efficiency but you rednecks get your kunts all bloody about it. Totally pathetic |
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