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Old 01-21-2020, 11:00 AM  
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NFL to experiment with alternative to onside kick at Pro Bowl

I don't think the NFL will ever allow it to happen, but just imagine a world where we could try keep the ball out of another team's hands using our ridiculously efficient 'and long' offense for an entire half.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-kick-pro-bowl

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The NFL will experiment with an alternative to the onside kick during Sunday's Pro Bowl, an indication that the league is still considering the option despite the fact that owners rejected it last year.

As in past years, there will be no kickoffs at all in the Pro Bowl. The twist this year is that teams will have two options after scoring.

The first is to give the ball back to the opposition, which would start its drive at its 25-yard line. The new, second option for the scoring team would serve as a substitute for an onside kick. It would allow it to run one additional play from its own 25-yard line.

If the scoring team gains 15 or more yards, it would retain possession. If it falls short, the opposition would take over at the dead ball spot. Essentially, it will be a fourth-and-15 play.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:29 PM   #31
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They have to do something. Recovering an onside kick now is really hard. Gotta keep viewers watching.

I don’t see why they have to make it easier to steal games? The team who is down 2+ scores with dwindling time on the clock had opportunity to not be in that position, but couldn’t make the plays.

The simple way to not need to recover an “impossible” onside kick is to win the first 56 minutes of the game.

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Old 01-21-2020, 12:32 PM   #32
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Dude.

Just ****ing put onside kicks back the way they were......
The only answer.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:35 PM   #33
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Yeah, no. 15 yards is waaaaaaay too low of a threshold.

Make it 25 yards w' the opposing team getting the ball at the spot (if the onside fails to convert), and it starts to sound more interesting.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:36 PM   #34
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As a Chiefs fan, I love it.

Of course, eventually someone will get screwed on a ticky tack defensive holding call.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:37 PM   #35
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I don’t see why they have to make it easier to steal games? They team that’s down 2+ scores with dwindling time on the clock had opportunity to not be in that position, but couldn’t make the plays.

The simple way to not need to recover an “impossible” onside kick is to win the first 56 minutes of the game.
Exactly this.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:42 PM   #36
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Dude.

Just ****ing put onside kicks back the way they were. Allow the running start. They dont happen enough to be this huge injury risk.
Maybe change the rule that the ball has to go 10 yards before the kicking team can recover to 5 yards. So the receiving team has to move forward to get the ball.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:42 PM   #37
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:51 PM   #38
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I bet that, overall, the percentages would make the 4th and 15 comparable to the old onside kick rules. The problem is that some teams will be WAY better at it than others. So as a Chiefs fan, bring it on.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:52 PM   #39
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As a Chiefs fan, I love it.

Of course, eventually someone will get screwed on a ticky tack defensive holding call.
Yep. It will be a “chuck it and watch for the flag” play.
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:54 PM   #40
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Old 01-21-2020, 12:55 PM   #41
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Read as: "NFL looking for new ways to help teams keep up with Mahomes"
Hell, Chiefs would never have to give the ball back with Mahomes at QB and Hill/Kelce/whoever else Chiefs have at WR.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:21 PM   #42
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What is not to like about the 4th and 15th play? I like it and should make the games more exciting. They are never going to return to the old onside kick way because of head injuries. Seems reasonable to me.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:25 PM   #43
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15 yards is nothing to the Chiefs. We would truly never be out of a game if this rule took effect.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:26 PM   #44
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this is stupid as hell im assuming goodell came up with it himself so its still being pushed.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:33 PM   #45
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So we're gonna try this one out but both teams getting the ball in overtime was too extreme?
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