***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Sure-Oz]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...906039296?s=19

Breaking News: Cheap, widely available steroids reduce mortality in severely ill Covid-19 patients, researchers found — an “important step forward” in treatment https://t.co/Bgws134Slz

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...906039296?s=19

Breaking News: Cheap, widely available steroids reduce mortality in severely ill Covid-19 patients, researchers found — an “important step forward” in treatment https://t.co/Bgws134Slz

This has been known since the beginning.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...906039296?s=19

Breaking News: Cheap, widely available steroids reduce mortality in severely ill Covid-19 patients, researchers found — an “important step forward” in treatment https://t.co/Bgws134Slz

Hook me up with the roids, Lew!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Hook me up with the roids, Lew!

Yeah, you want those kind of steroids? Knock yourself out. You'll soon look like an Antifa member with all of that prednisone.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...906039296?s=19

Breaking News: Cheap, widely available steroids reduce mortality in severely ill Covid-19 patients, researchers found — an “important step forward” in treatment https://t.co/Bgws134Slz

Cheap, widely available steroids can help treat the symptoms of any respiratory disease. They're also not completely harmless.

Throwing prednisone, et all at stuff is like prescribing antibiotics for stuff without diagnosing a specific bacterial infection.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You clearly don’t get it if your marker for not getting the flu vaccine is because you’ve never had it.

I honestly though this thinking died decades ago.

I don't take antibiotics for no reason, I don't take aspirin for no reason, I don't take ibuprofen for no reason, etc....I dont get the flu so I am not taking the vaccine.
The flu vaccine needs to be given annually so its not like its preventing polio or some shit.

Sorry I'm not taking shit just to take it.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Hook me up with the roids, Lew!

You’re the biggest dude on CP!

I’ve been asking you for your source for years!!!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I don't take antibiotics for no reason, I don't take aspirin for no reason, I don't take ibuprofen for no reason, etc....I dont get the flu so I am not taking the vaccine.
The flu vaccine needs to be given annually so its not like its preventing polio or some shit.

Sorry I'm not taking shit just to take it.

Honestly don't know if this is worth my time since your thinking is so far off.

Did you just compare a preventative measure such as the flu shot to a treatment approach such as an antibiotic? I mean................

1. I hope you understand why the flu vaccine needs to be given annually? Also, if you can answer that then you also know that not getting the flu in the past is NOT a predictor of avoiding the flu in the future.

2. A flu shot helps reduce the chance of infection by around 40-50%. Since there are relatively little complications from the flu shot, why would you not simply get the flu shot to decrease your chances of getting the flu for not only yourself, but also spreading it to your family?

3. A flu shot does not provide full immunity but can absolutely lessen your symptoms if you do get the flu. Studies have shown that around 75% of those who die from the flu each year did not get a flu shot.

4. Given current COVID knowledge and past research with the flu, some asymptomatic spread may be present. Vaccinating as many community members as possible could provide a greater herd immunity, which is especially important for those who may be unable to get the flu shot such as those who are allergic, some individuals who are immunocompromised and some with neurological disorders (Guillain-Barré syndrome).

5. Flu shots are extremely safe.

6. GET THE ****ING FLU SHOT.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1...906039296?s=19

Breaking News: Cheap, widely available steroids reduce mortality in severely ill Covid-19 patients, researchers found — an “important step forward” in treatment https://t.co/Bgws134Slz

Good to hear we have confirmation thar they work. We still need something that keeps people out of the hospital though.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

It helps me stay vigilant

That's definitely not a bad thing. Taking responsibility for ourselves and doing what's best for ourselves and our families is all we can really do.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Thats pretty stupid Lew.

Maybe you never got the FLU because everybody around you got the flu shot and is protecting you whether you believe in vaccines or not.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm not going to worry about it because it accomplishes nothing for me.

There were/still are plenty of anecdotal reports that hydroxycloriquine works as a treatment. Doesn't mean it's true.

Anecdotal reports mean very little overall

My anecdotal report is I was diagnosed with this shit, and continued to run multiple miles a day. Also I’m continuing to run multiple miles a day with no time lost of my normal pace.



So hopefully the reports of long lasting damage is a small portion of people.

[suzzer99]

That's good to hear. Also out of all the pro athletes who have gotten it, most seem fine. But they're also world class athletes in their 20s and 30s.

[Fat Elvis]

Another new hypothesis regarding Covid19: bradykinin storms (I'll admit, I don't know the first thing about bradykinin, but found the article really interesting...

https://elemental.medium.com/a-super...d-31cb8eba9d63

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Another new hypothesis regarding Covid19: bradykinin storms (I'll admit, I don't know the first thing about bradykinin, but found the article really interesting...

https://elemental.medium.com/a-super...d-31cb8eba9d63

Interesting and scary AF. The only actionable thing I got out of it was vitamin D.