***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

New Abbott test released that is basically a pregnancy test type

Big deal

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

New Abbott test released that is basically a pregnancy test type

Big deal

So I pee on a stick and know if I am positive or negative???

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

New Abbott test released that is basically a pregnancy test type

Big deal

That is great news and what we needed.

This seems like a big deal. 50M tests per month in October. $5 price point. 15 minute wait time. High sensitivity and specificity in studied patients. Small form factor. Companion application. Doesn't require CLIA labs to conduct.

That's a lot of good things. https://t.co/MftdbZXJG4

— Alexander Gaffney (@AlecGaffney) August 26, 2020

[MahomesMagic]

Major coronavirus study in Spanish summer camps shows low transmission among children

Children and adolescents who took part in 22 summer camps in the Barcelona area in recent months have been found to have a capacity to transmit the coronavirus that is up to six times lower than that of the general population.

That is the preliminary conclusion of the biggest study so far carried out about the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 among minors. The research was carried out by a team from the Sant Joan de Déu children’s hospital in the Catalan capital. The authors of the study chose summer camps on the basis that they are “environments that are comparable with, or similar to, those of schools.”
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...-children.html

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You didn't just ask this question, did you? Please tell me that's sarcasm.

The college where I work we had a positive and they isolated those that had been exposed. Then waited 4 days and had them all tested only one came back positive. That one got guaranteed while the rest came back to work.
Then a week after that they tested every employee to get a baseline for the entire campus faculty and staff.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

New Abbott test released that is basically a pregnancy test type

Big deal

I will piss on that test so often I'll die of dehydration!!

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

I will piss on that test so often I'll die of dehydration!!

Oh it's not an at home test.

Bummer.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Remember that heart study that came out a while back we were all kinda confused about? Looks like they done ****ed up.

Uh-oh Spaghetti-O's

Errors in Statistical Numbers and Data in Study of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From COVID-19

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2770026

Originally Posted by TLO

Stolen from someone elsewhere

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

We don't have to rewrite the textbooks take 10

Originally Posted by O.city

Those big 10 players and coaches may be a tad upset.

Now there's some debate about the study still being valid. Whatever.

Throw this one out and I'll wait for one with a larger sample size.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by TLO

Now there's some debate about the study still being valid. Whatever.

Throw this one out and I'll wait for one with a larger sample size.

Yeah if they have so many errors it makes it hard to take the study serious. Also with them changing the data led to this "However, the corrected findings no longer show higher left ventricular mass in these patients". Higher left ventricular mass is a pretty significant ailment and greatly increases the risk of heart attack. These tuckers make it seem like nothing changed with the corrected data.

Also, Twitter is the reason they had to correct this.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TLO

Now there's some debate about the study still being valid. Whatever.

Throw this one out and I'll wait for one with a larger sample size.

Was this the heart study that shut down Big Ten football?

[petegz28]

I may have proof the flu still exists in these times of woe and want. I have a friend in OK who was down with the flu 2 weeks ago but I am not 100 on his covid testing status.

Then I found out a co-worker has been out all week with the flu. Tested negative once for Covid and is going for his second test today or tomorrow.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I may have proof the flu still exists in these times of woe and want. I have a friend in OK who was down with the flu 2 weeks ago but I am not 100 on his covid testing status.

Then I found out a co-worker has been out all week with the flu. Tested negative once for Covid and is going for his second test today or tomorrow.

Impossibru

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/symp...ry?id=71594849

"Anyone who thinks they may be infected -- independent of symptoms -- should get a test," Redfield told Dr. Jennifer Ashton, ABC News' chief medical correspondent, and Aaron Katersky, ABC News Radio correspondent and host of the "Bringing Back America" podcast.

Its fairly obvious to spot people like Donger who use google as their entire resource on any topic and have zero real world experience with pretty much anything and think they are an expert.

Newsflash Donger, 90% of testing sights wont test you if you don't have symptoms regardless of your potential exposure. Its simply a waste of time.

There is no set number of days after exposure to know you have had enough incubation time therefore testing prior to being symptomatic is a waste of time unless you test at least 10 days after exposure. At that point if you have been asymptomatic for 10 days there is likely no reason to get tested anyway as it will take 2 days to get the test back (maybe longer) and quarantine time frame is 14 days. Its simple PRACTICAL logic.

There is no need to burden the system with asymptomatic testing.

This isn't complicated to comprehend if you have half a functioning brain.

[O.city]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6933a3_w

Big prison serology report. 12x more infections than we caught?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its fairly obvious to spot people like Donger who use google as their entire resource on any topic and have zero real world experience with pretty much anything and think they are an expert.

Newsflash Donger, 90% of testing sights wont test you if you don't have symptoms regardless of your potential exposure. Its simply a waste of time.

There is no set number of days after exposure to know you have had enough incubation time therefore testing prior to being symptomatic is a waste of time unless you test at least 10 days after exposure. At that point if you have been asymptomatic for 10 days there is likely no reason to get tested anyway as it will take 2 days to get the test back (maybe longer) and quarantine time frame is 14 days. Its simple PRACTICAL logic.

There is no need to burden the system with asymptomatic testing.

This isn't complicated to comprehend if you have half a functioning brain.

The issue is if asymptomatic people are really driving spread, we need to know.