***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Alabama has been back to school for a week or two. They screened everyone at the beginning and caught 330 cases. A week later they have 550 from teachers and staff.

North Carolina had like 150 people test positive in the first week as well and then they cancelled in-person classes. Now they have like 400 people in quarantine.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

One in four people aged 18 to 24 seriously contemplated suicide in June, according to new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data are the latest in a series of reports highlighting increases in anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation since the COVID-19 pandemic began.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...id-19-pandemic

Just one the many things people fail to consider when they developed what I call Covid-Vision.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

One in four people aged 18 to 24 seriously contemplated suicide in June, according to new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data are the latest in a series of reports highlighting increases in anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation since the COVID-19 pandemic began.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...id-19-pandemic

That age group is already more anxious and depressed than anything really ever seen (thanks social media). So this number isn’t all that surprising.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just one the many things people fail to consider when they developed what I call Covid-Vision.

Who do you think is ignoring it?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Who do you think is ignoring it?

Most people.

[O.city]

Just go ahead and cancel schools and go back to virtual. If we're gonna shut down when there's a case, it's not gonna happen anyway.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Most people.

I don't see that at all. People handle stress in different ways. There's a pandemic going on. It's a real shame that some people are contemplating suicide during the pandemic and the stress that it has caused, but what's the alternative? Ignoring the pandemic?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

One in four people aged 18 to 24 seriously contemplated suicide in June, according to new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data are the latest in a series of reports highlighting increases in anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation since the COVID-19 pandemic began.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...id-19-pandemic

What percentage of that age group were seriously contemplating suicide in June of 2019? I am sure the number has increased a great amount but I am curious to see the actual impact of COVID-19 on this.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pants

What percentage of that age group were seriously contemplating suicide in June of 2019? I am sure the number has increased a great amount but I am curious to see the actual impact of COVID-19 on this.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6932a1_w

Elevated levels of adverse mental health conditions, substance use, and suicidal ideation were reported by adults in the United States in June 2020. The prevalence of symptoms of anxiety disorder was approximately three times those reported in the second quarter of 2019 (25.5% versus 8.1%), and prevalence of depressive disorder was approximately four times that reported in the second quarter of 2019 (24.3% versus 6.5%) (2). However, given the methodological differences and potential unknown biases in survey designs, this analysis might not be directly comparable with data reported on anxiety and depression disorders in 2019 (2). Approximately one quarter of respondents reported symptoms of a TSRD related to the pandemic, and approximately one in 10 reported that they started or increased substance use because of COVID-19. Suicidal ideation was also elevated; approximately twice as many respondents reported serious consideration of suicide in the previous 30 days than did adults in the United States in 2018, referring to the previous 12 months (10.7% versus 4.3%) (6).

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't see that at all. People handle stress in different ways. There's a pandemic going on. It's a real shame that some people are contemplating suicide during the pandemic and the stress that it has caused, but what's the alternative? Ignoring the pandemic?

Do you think the stress comes more from the pandemic itself or the reporting being done on the pandemic?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you think the stress comes more from the pandemic itself or the reporting being done on the pandemic?

I would imagine moreso the latter.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Pants

What percentage of that age group were seriously contemplating suicide in June of 2019? I am sure the number has increased a great amount but I am curious to see the actual impact of COVID-19 on this.

From another article

The toll was particularly striking among adults ages 18 to 24. In this group, about 63% reported symptoms of anxiety or depressive disorder, 25% reported starting or increasing use of substances, and 25% reported seriously considering suicide in the past 30 days. For comparison, in a national survey conducted in 2018, about 14% of young adults reported an episode of major depression and 11% reported serious thoughts of suicide in the past year.
https://www.livescience.com/depressi...-covid-19.html

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

One in four people aged 18 to 24 seriously contemplated suicide in June, according to new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data are the latest in a series of reports highlighting increases in anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation since the COVID-19 pandemic began.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...id-19-pandemic

They need to stop being selfish.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

They need to stop being selfish.

You're joking right?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

I would imagine moreso the latter.

I would imagine you're right.

I'll speak a little from experience. I've shared that I struggle with both depression/anxiety and have for as long as I can remember.

By June I had accepted the fact that this was something we weren't getting rid of and that we were going to have to live with it. I also understood how to protect myself to the best of my ability, and how to keep my clients as safe as possible. I still worry about covid every day, but I use my worry to be responsible.

But back in March/April/May? There were definitely times I considered harming myself. It felt like the world was coming to an end. The deadly plague was coming. All hospitals were going to be filled to capacity with everyone on ventilators. If you were one of the lucky ones, you might get a ventilator. If not - sorry about your luck.