***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

I better not get no gay plasma.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by eDave

I better not get no gay plasma.

Billay will give you his "plasma" if you don't watch it.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Another tool against the China Virus. Good news for sure.

You've never been unable to receive this treatment.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Another tool against the China Virus. Good news for sure.

Four months ago called with some new info.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by eDave

You've never been unable to receive this treatment.

Yeah, they’ve been doing this for months. I believe it’s efficacy too.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

It's the plasma.

Reduces mortality by 35% I'd like to see the studies.

The studies are up the same ass that lie came from.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

The studies are up the same ass that lie came from.

Ok then

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

Ok then

It seems like actual medical experts have no idea where these numbers are coming from or any solid foundation leading to the FDA's change of heart within just three days, outside of political pressure/corruption. That circles me back to my comment of concern and the forthcoming vaccine that won't exist. Hell, even a medical doctor on Fox News called the basis "C-grade data at best."

Let's just look at what he said ourselves; This treatment is best for those under 80 and within 3 days of diagnosis. Look no further than testimonials presented in this thread to see that diagnosis is delayed far beyond 3 days.

Considering this, there is no other way to see this as anything other than a nothing burger that's always been available and intended to deceive those less fortunate when it comes to intelligence.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Billay will give you his "plasma" if you don't watch it.

He gets a fresh dose of mine every time he hugs his mom.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

It seems like actual medical experts have no idea where these numbers are coming from or any solid foundation leading to the FDA's change of heart within just three days, outside of political pressure/corruption. That circles me back to my comment of concern and the forthcoming vaccine that won't exist. Hell, even a medical doctor on Fox News called the basis "C-grade data at best."

Let's just look at what he said ourselves; This treatment is best for those under 80 and within 3 days of diagnosis. Look no further than testimonials presented in this thread to see that diagnosis is delayed far beyond 3 days.

Considering this, there is no other way to see this as anything other than a nothing burger that's always been available and intended to deceive those less fortunate when it comes to intelligence.

It's not a "nothing burger" This is a treatment option for people early on in the hospital before the disease progresses. Dexamethasone is really only useful in the most dire of situations. Remdesivir still seems to be a bit of a wildcard. Having more tools to treat people early on during hospitalization is a big deal.

[TLO]

Under your current logic all of the drugs that are currently in trials or being used in compassionate use will be "nothing burgers" if they are granted approval because hey, people were being treated with them before!

Your political views are clouding your judgement, IMO.

[petegz28]

Yes it is Sunday but even compared to previous Sundays we saw a huge drop in both cases and deaths today.

[dirk digler]

Big news this morning. We all have heard about re-infections well now there is a documented case. This is a peer reviewed study not a pre print. 33 yr old IT person, 2 different strains 4.5 months apart.

#COVID19 HKU team claims to document the world's first case of true re-infection.

Waiting for more details in full manuscript, but it's particularly concerning that viral genomes from 1st and 2nd episodes (4.5mo apart) belong to different lineages with 24-nucleotide difference. https://t.co/B97OtuCjg5 pic.twitter.com/algDrFvE8x

— Andy Biotech (@AndyBiotech) August 24, 2020

[KCUnited]

Yes, finally!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Big news this morning. We all have heard about re-infections well now there is a documented case. This is a peer reviewed study not a pre print. 33 yr old IT person, 2 different strains 4.5 months apart.

#COVID19 HKU team claims to document the world's first case of true re-infection.

Waiting for more details in full manuscript, but it's particularly concerning that viral genomes from 1st and 2nd episodes (4.5mo apart) belong to different lineages with 24-nucleotide difference. https://t.co/B97OtuCjg5 pic.twitter.com/algDrFvE8x

— Andy Biotech (@AndyBiotech) August 24, 2020

It’s not two different strains. Technicality wise maybe But it’s different lineages of the same strain.

Also the second time they caught it they were asymptomatic and only found thru screening