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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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#4291 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lawrence, KS
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Do you think this defense would shut down last year's Raiders offense? Or Cowboys? I doubt it. |
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#4292 |
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lawrence, KS
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Btw, the argument that Mahomes put the defense in a bad spot vs Denver doesn't hold much water. The turnovers gave them field position at the KC 40, Denver 40 and Denver 20. That's no excuse for allowing that offense to score 4 TDs.
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#4293 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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The offense, not the defense, is largely responsible for spags’ only chiefs playoff exits. And a huge part of our Super Bowl run where we pretty much shut down 2 elite running games. Playoff spags has done reasonably well. Not dominant but more than enough to win every game except buffalo where that was purely an offense win. |
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#4294 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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I dunno that they'd have held them to that though. I think Charvarious was a bigger loss than we all thought he'd be at CB. As good as the rookies have been, Ward was really good. I don't know man. I feel like this defense should be better than they are, personnel issues be damned. |
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#4295 |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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I don’t necessarily think the chiefs hold everything back but there’s a case to be made that they tighten everything up when they get to the playoffs. Spags has a complicated scheme that takes time to learn. And he doesn’t seem afraid to try lots of players out regardless of inexperience.
We’re in an ideal spot for our defense to make mistakes. With our schedule and the division pretty much locked up. And even trying to get the #1 seed we have the schedule advantage. If our secondary is bad at zone it’s games like last week that are great opportunities to get real uncomfortable. Not sure what we can for pass rush but at the very least there’s tremendous upside for our secondary to improve a ton. Way more opps to do that then a team desperately clinging to every single snap at this point in the season |
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#4296 |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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They aren't holding shit back on defense. Defense is more about cohesion and responsibility and more so.....talent.
They give up too many points. They aren't good enough in the redzone. I don't know why specifically, but it has to get better. |
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#4297 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lawrence, KS
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The Raiders obviously didn't have a weapon like Adams last year, but they still had Waller, Jacobs, Renfrow, etc. This defense might struggle to hold them to 3 TDs in one game, let alone across two games. I think this defense should be better than it is. Seemed like they were taking a step forward before the Cincinnati game. Then again, they were playing well before going to Cincinnati last year too and the result was similar. They're obviously a pretty bad matchup. Like I said, my issue is with the double standard. There's no way anyone can make a rational argument that this year's defense is playing much better than last year's at this time. Just no way. And that's not a knock. I think last year's defense was good enough to win a SB. |
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#4298 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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The defense here isn't asked to nor should it be asked to be great or elite. The money and allocations are on the offensive side. They've swung some of that to the defensive side for sure, but that's gonna take a bit to materialize. When the defense holds a team to 24 or less here, it's done it's job. Sure, hold them to 10 would be great, but that's just not the way this team is currently constructed. Make the other team punt 2 or 3 times, get a turnover etc. Losses at that point are on the offense. |
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#4300 |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Which 1 of yall wrote an article about Spags DVOA on a fake ass SI website and is spamming it on Facebook? This fan base sucks
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#4301 |
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#4302 |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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I don’t think so either but as has been pointed out our secondary has struggled in zone. We can be more willing to experiment with different coverages and concepts now. But in the playoffs you have to accept your weaknesses and work around it or do less of it. Our gut instinct is to ask why we keep doing things if we’re bad at it, but we are in a spot right now where making mistakes isn’t always a bad thing.
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#4303 |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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They struggle to play zone because of the front 4 IMO. They can't sit back in zone with 7 because the QB has too much time. You can't play zone forever, it breaks down.
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#4304 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The defense needed to get younger, faster and more athletic. Well, Veach/Spags have done that. But it aint Madden; it was always going to take some time for them to learn the playbook, adjust to the speed of the NFL, gel, etc. As is normal for human beings, some are adjusting and getting comfortable quicker than others. Will say that the more i look into it, the more it looks like the secondary misses a HB-type safety. Only 1 INT between them, and 9 PDs. They don't make offenses pay at all for throwing between the numbers downfield. Considering how often the DL gets pressure, those guys should be piling up a lot more stats than they have. The eyeball test suggests that they're late to the party, but also that they're not taking the right angles. Saw one play a couple days ago from the DEN game that should've been an INT for Reid, but he takes a bad angle like he expects the ball to be underthrown by about 5 yards, but he also doesn't hustle; he kind of jogs over so he's short and he's late. Resulted in a big 3rd down conversion that never should've happened. you watch that play, and you have to think, "HB, even having lost a step, makes that INT." Last edited by Megatron96; 12-16-2022 at 11:15 AM.. |
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#4305 |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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As much as I like him, I think Bolton hurts them against the pass playing zone. He's better but he just isn't the physical freak of a guy like Fred Warner or whoever.
He lets them do some much because he's just an insane freak in there. |
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