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08-17-2020, 02:33 PM | #42992 |
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08-17-2020, 02:34 PM | #42993 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
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08-17-2020, 02:39 PM | #42994 |
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08-17-2020, 02:39 PM | #42995 |
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Right.
How many of these all over the world treatments have been RCTs? |
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08-17-2020, 02:43 PM | #42996 |
Now you've pissed me off!
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Good in a lot of ways, really sucks in others. Benadryl ODs are interesting.
Interesting alliteration/mnemonic for toxicity: Blind as a bat Dry as a bone Full as a flask (can’t urinate) Hot as a Hades Red as a beet Mad as a hatter Tacky as a leisure suit (fast heart rate) Pro-tip: Don't give to people over 65, especially if they have dementia. |
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08-17-2020, 02:46 PM | #42997 |
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UNC is shutting down in person classes just after 1 week because they had 130 positive cases and probably have much larger outbreak occurring. Who could have predicted that.
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08-17-2020, 02:48 PM | #42998 | |
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How are you planning on handling the (almost certain) possibility of them being virtual for a large portion of the year? |
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08-17-2020, 02:50 PM | #42999 |
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08-17-2020, 02:53 PM | #43000 | |
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In my field I help people return swallow function from a variety of conditions. This may include strokes, head/neck cancer, Parkinson’s and dementia. I have an estim unit that sends electrical impulses to help improve muscular contraction and swallow function when paired with oral motor exercises. It’s been shown to improve function post stroke but does not have evidence in support of improving swallow function in people with Parkinson’s, as traditional compensatory swallow techniques are more beneficial for them. However, some therapists will give estim to people with Parkinson’s even though the data doesn’t support it’s use and traditional treatments are more effective. Does that make it wrong? No, but it cannot be stated to be a cure when data does not support this, especially when it’s paired with traditional treatments. Could we have achieved the same results, without risking side effects, just using traditional treatments? This is similar to HCQ based on current research. Traditional treatments prove same/more effective without the possible known side effects from HCQ. Does that mean it can’t be used as last resort, maybe not. But drawing conclusions that it’s curing COVID cannot be drawn from any studies or literature. There’s examples in all of healthcare about making decisions and making good/better decisions. It shouldn’t be a guessing game. /typing on phone Last edited by lewdog; 08-17-2020 at 03:00 PM.. |
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08-17-2020, 03:03 PM | #43001 |
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The doctor I know in Seattle was in one of the HCQ studies. He said he didn't think it did much, but some of the nurses thought it was a miracle drug. Point is the more emotionally involved you are, and you see the patient seem to miraculously get better the day they take something - you're going to believe in it. Which is exactly why you need placebos and double-blind studies.
These non-RCT HCQ studies seem to have taken patients who were probably going to get better anyway, and purposely excluded the really sick patients - at least the ones I've dived into. |
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08-17-2020, 03:11 PM | #43002 | |
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Predicted that they would shut down after something happened everyone knew would happen? Yeah that is pointless. If cases means you shut down then starting was pointless to begin with. As far as I can tell that’s not the debate though about in person schooling occurring. |
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08-17-2020, 03:16 PM | #43003 | |
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08-17-2020, 03:21 PM | #43004 |
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Getting a little hairy here in Greene county. Hospitalizations up by a fair amount over the weekend.
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08-17-2020, 03:35 PM | #43005 | |
Life is changing..
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Our cases per day have been steadily increasing around here though. We were averaging 4 or 5 a day for a while and now seem to be closer to 11-12 per day. |
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