***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

There's plenty if you don't look at bullshit made up statistics

Here's some positive news from JoCo ...

Largest age group for positive cases - 20-29
Deaths in age group 20-29 - 1


On school related note

The 0-69 age group makes up 91% of all positive cases but only 8% of total deaths with a total of 9 deaths.

Death count of kids ranging from elementary to high school is 0

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Pete...Basically if you aren't towards the end of your rope already, you have a 99.99 percent chance of this never effecting you. Agree?

[Bearcat]

FWIW, the posts last night is a perfect example of what was being discussed in the Sturgis thread.... two of those 'reported' posts don't even remotely look political to me, and another couple are far closer to an eye roll or a warning at most.

It would be exhausting and pretty dumb and the opposite of what this boar has been about for 20 years to moderate something like ..."drop your crusade against the media then. We all know where it comes from."

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Whoops. Fake. Sorry fella's.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Pete...Basically if you aren't towards the end of your rope already, you have a 99.99 percent chance of this never effecting you. Agree?

I would but I like to put the numbers to it because it makes people actually have to see it for what it is.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Pete...Basically if you aren't towards the end of your rope already, you have a 99.99 percent chance of this never effecting you. Agree?

Originally Posted by petegz28

I would but I like to put the numbers to it because it makes people actually have to see it for what it is.

I should clarify, you have a 99% chance of not dying. Now, will you have some residual damage? Some will as we have seen. But generally I agree with your take that if you are not elderly and are in relatively good health your survival chances are very, very good.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I would but I like to put the numbers to it because it makes people actually have to see it for what it is.

I've been aware as well. It's a vicious disease for loved ones that are already in rough shape. For most of us...wouldn't even know you had it

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

I've been aware as well. It's a vicious disease for loved ones that are already in rough shape. For most of us...wouldn't even know you had it

There definitely seems to be little middle ground. I know there are cases of people getting really sick but not dying and some even having lasting effects. But it seems that most either never get sick or have very mild symptoms and then there are those that get so sick they come close to dying or die.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by eDave

Whoops. Fake. Sorry fella's.

Mebahahwhwjjwjahahajhahaahha well played.

[Demonpenz]

Donald Trump brother

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There definitely seems to be little middle ground. I know there are cases of people getting really sick but not dying and some even having lasting effects. But it seems that most either never get sick or have very mild symptoms and then there are those that get so sick they come close to dying or die.

The outliers make the moon bats lose their shit. That's the problem . The but, but , but we can't risk ONE person ...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

The outliers make the moon bats lose their shit. That's the problem . The but, but , but we can't risk ONE person ...

Well I can only speak to my locality and it still stands that there most likely will be a school child die from the flu before they die from Covid this year. And the sad part is no one will bat an eye at it because it isn't Covid.

[O.city]

7 day average of positives down below 7 %

We’re doing a lot better hope it continues

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

7 day average of positives down below 7 %

We’re doing a lot better hope it continues

Is this nation wide? I saw on the MO DHSS website that we're at 11.4% still.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I would but I like to put the numbers to it because it makes people actually have to see it for what it is.

You can do that for many things people should still take seriously.