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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:11 AM   #4216
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Can you imagine if we had rolled with a Rookie and Wylie? We would all be in the "our tackles suck" thread screaming about it...
A good majority of people on here who bitch just want something to bitch about. If we would have went full offense....Veach would be wasting Mahomes with the defense being shitty. If he spent money on WR and the defense...then Mahomes would be running for his life and it would be Veach's fault. You're already seeing what happens when he didn't stack the WR room.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:13 AM   #4217
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He was running for his life last year. Penalties have been a problem but the pass pro from the tackles have been significantly better.

Orlando and Wylie are at the top of PFF yet again for pressures given up. Here's what Jawaan has done in pass pro:
He was apparently running for his life all the way to an MVP season. That's where the trade off was in the off season apparently. Do you pay less for a tackle as good or maybe slightly worse than Taylor, and make up for it by signing a reliable WR. Or sign Taylor and do nothing with the WRs and Mahomes has the worst season of his career and looks frustrated every time he steps on the field?
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:19 AM   #4218
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He was hobbling for his life all the way to an MVP season. That's where the trade off was in the off season apparently. Do you pay less for a tackle as good or maybe slightly worse than Taylor, and make up for it by signing a reliable WR. Or sign Taylor and do nothing with the WRs and Mahomes has the worst season of his career and looks frustrated every time he steps on the field?

FYP... and **** the do nothing bullshit. We tried to trade up in the draft for Zay Flowers and Chris Jones agents threw a wrench into any FA signing.

Again, it shouldn't be very hard. Tell us what your moves would have been?
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:20 AM   #4219
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FYP... and **** the do nothing bullshit. We tried to trade up in the draft for Zay Flowers and Chris Jones agents threw a wrench into any FA signing.

Again, it shouldn't be very hard. Tell us what your moves would have been?
I would have restructured Mahomes as soon as DeAndre Hopkins was available to afford his 2 year 26mil contract. It's documented in this thread.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:21 AM   #4220
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The irony of pointing towards Wylie and saying Mahomes made it work for an MVP season when it's literally the exact same WR room besides swapping JJSS for Rice, who is tracking to have a nearly identical season to 2022 JJSS.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:23 AM   #4221
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The irony of pointing towards Wylie and saying Mahomes made it work for an MVP season when it's literally the exact same WR room besides swapping JJSS for Rice, who is tracking to have a nearly identical season to 2022 JJSS.
I don't think it's ironic.

And while the numbers are the same, you do acknowledge there's a very distinct difference in usage in Rice and how Juju was used last year right? Aren't we all wanting them to use him like how Juju was used all over the field and not just on a bunch of screens?
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:24 AM   #4222
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I would have restructured Mahomes as soon as DeAndre Hopkins was available to afford his 2 year 26mil contract. It's documented in this thread.
I'm glad you're not GM...
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:25 AM   #4223
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I'm glad you're not GM...
Why not? What's your problem with that plan?
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:25 AM   #4224
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The irony of pointing towards Wylie and saying Mahomes made it work for an MVP season when it's literally the exact same WR room besides swapping JJSS for Rice, who is tracking to have a nearly identical season to 2022 JJSS.
Veach and Andy believed in Toney and Skyy and it might (will?) cost us this season. Think everybody can agree on this one.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:26 AM   #4225
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Yeah saving money by using Wylie ain’t it. We have money to spend. We are just being cautious and I think we’re being too cautious.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:26 AM   #4226
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The irony of pointing towards Wylie and saying Mahomes made it work for an MVP season when it's literally the exact same WR room besides swapping JJSS for Rice, who is tracking to have a nearly identical season to 2022 JJSS.
What? You are truly clueless... Wylie was basically replaced by Donovan Smith. Taylor was replacing OBJ...
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:28 AM   #4227
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Why not? What's your problem with that plan?
Jones, Sneed, Humphrey, Bolton, Gay, Smith for starters.
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Hopkins would have really messed up Moore and Toneys development. Can you imagine how bad they’d feel watching a guy actually catch the ball?
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Jones, Sneed, Humphrey, Bolton, Gay, Smith for starters.
If we're unable to sign those players because we gave a 1000+ yard receiver a 2 year 26mil deal then there's a bigger issue with our cap management.
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:31 AM   #4230
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I will admit I was against this. I was duped into believing the WR room would work. WE have pressed harder for Hopkins.
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