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Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8
About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.
I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that... For future us, 2015 thread is here: Link Last edited by keg in kc; 06-21-2017 at 10:48 AM.. |
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05-06-2019, 11:00 AM | #4201 | |
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05-06-2019, 11:02 AM | #4202 | |
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Dany's not the mad queen, but she's a ruthless conquerer. The choice is whether or not a ruthless conquerer should be a ruler at all - which I think is GRRM's overall point. |
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05-06-2019, 11:04 AM | #4203 | |
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For the record, I'm not near as irritated about Missandei as I am about all of the other stuff that's been discussed in depth already (Bran is useless, not being on the lookout for enemy ships, arrows that have more power than cannons, dragons that are famed for their strength but go down without a fight, Bronn thinking that threats are going to pay off, Varys deciding that it's a good idea to tell Tyrion he's probably going to commit treason, Arya just kind of...wandering off..., etc.). |
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05-06-2019, 11:09 AM | #4204 | |
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I'll repaste my overall thoughts of the series here. If I had a time machine, endgame style, GRRM never gives up ASOIAF until he was finished with the series. I think Seasons 7-8 showcase why this guy can’t finish the books. These endings feel like broad concepts. Season 6 worked so well because he set up Winds of Winter a lot like Storm of Swords, it was all payoff - which D&D are great at. Seasons 7-8 required a lot of plotting that we ultimately never received. It took required rising actions and removed their second acts to accelerate to the end game. D&D just do not have the talent for a second act. If only they could have poached some of Breaking Bad's/Better Call Saul's writing staff after Season 4 (when GRRM left). Though the primary critique of BCS is that they never leave the second act, the last two seasons of GOT have badly needed it in their writing. There have been great moments in Seasons 7-8, but they’ve removed a lot of the plotting that enriches the payoff of these moments - which Game of Thrones was brilliant at in the past. Unless the ending does something unbelievably stupid (it was all a dream, Dany and Jon get a Disney ending, etc) it won’t ruin the show for me - and at the very least it’ll give this series an ending. Maybe one day we’ll see how GRRM gets there too, and maybe not. |
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05-06-2019, 11:12 AM | #4205 |
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Arya is gonna stab Jon in the neck with needle. Rip off her face and be shown to be the real NK this entire time. Proceeds to raise the dead, queue music, series over.
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05-06-2019, 11:22 AM | #4206 |
testing ... 1, 2, 3
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I love this show. I really do. And I rarely get excited about anything on teevee other than Chiefs football ... actually ... that's about it; GOT and the Chiefs. Howevah ...
If they are "speeding things up", why have two practically identical scenes with Tyrion and Varys discussing their "treasonous thoughts"? Those were valuable minutes that could have been used to; 1) Show Arya & Sansa react to Jon's true identity, 2) Solve the riddle of Messandre's capture, 3) Explain how Bronn knew where Tyrion and Jamie were and how to find them alone, or 4) Other cool stuff. It's the need to rationalize and explain things that are inconsistent with established characters' motivations or simply fast-tracked to the point of near-nonsense that bothers me. I shall now provide an example ... I've figured out that Dany flew her dragons into a trap because Varys KNEW that the fleet was there and the enemy had built dozens of giant arrow shooters ... some of which had been outfitted on the ships. He KNEW this because Varys has Little Birds who told him. That explains why Dany was ambushed ... it was sabotage by Varys. He set her up. Now, why should I have to manufacture that explanation when televising a simple convo between Varys and a Little Bird or a quick shot of Varys reading a Raven Note would get the message across? Answer? I shouldn't ... because that's probably not what happened at all. When the audience is this invested in a show, the characters, the world they inhabit, and the challenges they face, it's damn unfair to have to do the writers' thinking for them. I thought the idea was to entertain us ... not drive us insane. FAX |
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05-06-2019, 11:43 AM | #4207 |
In BB I trust
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Some great memes I saw today.
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05-06-2019, 11:54 AM | #4208 |
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05-06-2019, 12:04 PM | #4209 | |
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05-06-2019, 12:09 PM | #4210 |
Mahomes > God
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05-06-2019, 12:12 PM | #4211 |
testing ... 1, 2, 3
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05-06-2019, 12:13 PM | #4212 |
testing ... 1, 2, 3
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05-06-2019, 12:27 PM | #4213 | |
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Then D&D, HBO, BBC, and everyone else who initially agreed to an adaptation that did not have an ending. Last edited by Chiefspants; 05-06-2019 at 12:38 PM.. |
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05-06-2019, 12:27 PM | #4214 |
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I thought it was kind of dumb that they just walked right up and demanded surrender after they just casually killed one of her dragons. Like, you kind of lost a lot of leverage there. And why didn't they just wipe them out while they were standing there? Cersei doesn't care about honor.
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05-06-2019, 12:32 PM | #4215 | |
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