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08-08-2020, 03:36 PM | #42031 | |
Sometimes it's black and white
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But even if an elderly person doesn't need assisted living, it isn't practical for most to isolate. My mom still lives in her own house. Groceries could be delivered but she has a lot of doctor visits to treat the various things that come along with old age. And they are not all to hospitals. For instance she has recently had several visits regarding a hearing aid. There is just no way to isolate the elderly from the rest of society while still taking care of their health. |
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08-08-2020, 03:44 PM | #42032 | |
'Tis my eye!
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08-08-2020, 07:26 PM | #42033 |
Life is changing..
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Location: NW Missouri
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Numbers down from last Saturday.
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08-08-2020, 07:35 PM | #42034 |
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08-08-2020, 08:42 PM | #42035 |
In Search of a Life
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08-08-2020, 11:01 PM | #42036 |
"You like to drink?"
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08-08-2020, 11:10 PM | #42037 | |
Sometimes it's black and white
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
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Yes, I agree that it would be better if people were less selfish. Taking care of vulnerable populations deserves more resources than it gets even in normal times. And on a different note, if you want to provide health care to people that are 75+ in age, there is just no way to keep them isolated. Spending more money for instance wouldn't reduce the number of people that need to be seen by the elderly population like my mom. Even with reasonably good health there is the hearing aid specialist and the eye doctor and the skin doctor and the dentist and the physical therapist for shoulder surgery and another hip replacement and all the PT and therapy that involves and the list goes on. Just a bunch of routine stuff for treating old age. You can't quarantine this population for three months+ and also take care of their health. |
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08-09-2020, 07:50 AM | #42038 |
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Location: Olathe, Ks
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Actually TLO is correct unless my math sucks. Let's check...
Last Saturday: Cases = 58,535 Deaths = 1,123 This Saturday: Cases = 54,199 Deaths = 976 I don't see how you can say he is not correct...... |
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08-09-2020, 08:26 AM | #42039 | |
I love your mom
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Location: Sturgeon Falls, Ontario
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They didn’t implement lockdowns because of what it was doing to the elderly with low quality of life living in homes , they did it because of what it was doing to active 40-80 year old with co-morbidities which is a a large part of the population and that is hard to isolate like your mom , my dad for the reasons you mentioned. A 40 year old spending 2 weeks on a vent is possibly going to reduce life expectancy and their quality of life more than a 89 year old in a home dying . |
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08-09-2020, 09:21 AM | #42040 |
Please squeeze
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clinton, MO
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Duke did a study on masks which you find here.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/cont...b-figures-data The results are obviously N95 and surgical masks did the best, homemade cotton masks did very well and the worst are bandanas and fleece. Actually fleece was worse than not wearing a mask at all. |
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08-09-2020, 10:06 AM | #42041 |
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere
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Location: Billings, Montana
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Over 250K at Sturgis packed shoulder to shoulder and I haven't seen a mask yet in any of the videos. That place is going to be a rona factory.
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08-09-2020, 10:54 AM | #42042 |
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08-09-2020, 11:35 AM | #42043 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: L.A.
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ES never says anything clearly enough to really affirm or deny. First of all you have to guess at what exactly he means, which means someone else can always say "no, that's not what he means at all".
What do you think he's saying in that tweet? |
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08-09-2020, 11:36 AM | #42044 | |
My Mamma Says
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08-09-2020, 11:37 AM | #42045 |
MVP
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and we all will get a rona. Running away from this is like running away from the common cold....almost impossible. We will all eventually get a rona or a vaccine or both. Each time it mutates we hope it gets a little less virulent each time. We all just need to live with this and use precautions when we can.
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