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Old 03-15-2024, 06:58 AM  
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Report: Sneed likely to stay with Chiefs and play the tag

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Old 03-20-2024, 07:39 AM   #406
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Which still has more value than anything you post.
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Old 03-20-2024, 07:40 AM   #407
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I would have thought that one of the best corners in the game would fetch a 1st or at worse, a second rounder. All
Of the remaining options are not even approaching ideal.
The rest of the league doesn't think so. They see a very good 27 year old with a questionable knee issue.

We see and Snead see's a prime Ramsey or Revis. He isn't getting that value.
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Old 03-20-2024, 07:41 AM   #408
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What DE or OT is out there now that could be had?
OT's with injury concerns. Danna is still available.
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Old 03-20-2024, 07:58 AM   #409
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If it’s Tennessee, the package is gonna be a ‘24 4th (106) + ‘25 2nd IMO

Aka the Marcus Peters deal

Not awful, but not much juice this year. They don’t have a 3. Don’t see them giving up pick 38.
Yeah, that's just not enough present value for me to do it. Especially in-conference.

I'd love to have their 2025 2nd, which is going to be a top 40 pick, I'm pretty sure. But it's got to be a third this year.

A 2nd in 2025 is equivalent to a 3rd round pick this year. And I'm not down with a 3rd and a 4th as a total return. Just not enough to pass up having him this year.
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:22 AM   #410
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Dragging out for a while. Slammed for saying this before but correct.
You kept saying neither Sneed nor Jones would play for the Chiefs this year. That's what you were slammed for. Now you're trying to pivot to something else.
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:26 AM   #411
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Titans don't have a 3rd this year
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:28 AM   #412
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Yeah, that's just not enough present value for me to do it. Especially in-conference.

I'd love to have their 2025 2nd, which is going to be a top 40 pick, I'm pretty sure. But it's got to be a third this year.

A 2nd in 2025 is equivalent to a 3rd round pick this year. And I'm not down with a 3rd and a 4th as a total return. Just not enough to pass up having him this year.
They don't have a 3rd this year.

But here's the thing - if you get next years 2 from Tennessee, that's converting an asset into a more fungible asset. TN's 2 next season would theoretically have solid value to any team in the NFL. Especially for teams not necessarily looking to win anything this year (i.e. teams picking higher in the 3rd).

So if next year's TN pick is 'worth' a 3rd in this year's draft you could probably get it spun for an early 3rd. And with that 4th rounder from TN, you could maybe even get it converted into a late 2.

It's about accumulate more readily moveable assets at that point. It's like in baseball where some teams simply always trade for pitching under the belief that EVERYONE needs a pitcher while not everyone needs a lefty slugger or a shortstop.

So if you can take an asset that has strong value to 10 teams and convert it into something that has a similar value but to all 32 teams, now you're increasing your ability to get an immediate return on it.
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:36 AM   #413
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Just for the sake of discourse.

Let's say TN deals us a 4 this year and a 2 next year. And we take that 2 next year and flip it to NE for pick 68. Now we take the 4 from TN and bundle it with pick 68 - that gets us up to TB at 57.

Which is still a little light of where I wanted to be (top 50) but not far removed. And hell, in theory you could take that 57 and combine it with our 64 to get up to SF at 600. And if you wante dto bundle that with pick 32 you could get up near 13/14 for the folks who are trying to get into the top 15.

Is that the route I'd go? No - but it opens up a lot of possibilities for us when you start to distil it into straight asset value. You could hold the 57 but deal 32 to the Giants if they want a QB along with the 95 and get 47 and 70 back. Now you're holding 47, 57, 64 and 70 right in what may turn out to be the sweet spot for value picks in the draft.

Again - it's not a perfect scenario at this point, but it sure would open the draft up for us.
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:55 AM   #414
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Now that the Chiefs have the number of large contracts that they do, folks need to realize that draft picks represent the means by which we fill out the roster. Giving up several picks to move up is not as feasible now, because we are going to have difficulty finding the roster answers in a cost effective manager in free agency.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:13 AM   #415
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Now that the Chiefs have the number of large contracts that they do, folks need to realize that draft picks represent the means by which we fill out the roster. Giving up several picks to move up is not as feasible now, because we are going to have difficulty finding the roster answers in a cost effective manager in free agency.
No but they've shown to be able to hit on cheap UDFA/late signing FA's. So they can get the production there if they need to after trading up for someone.

My thing is that trading up enough to get where people want them to go.....history says it just usually doesn't work out.

Stay where you are, maybe go up a pick or two if a guy falls, but for the most part, just take guys you like where you are.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:17 AM   #416
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No reason to doubt Veach in this. Breer put out yesterday that he believes it will still most likely be a second rounder. The first couple waves of FA have already come and gone. There’s no reason to rush this.

Granted it’s not an exact comparison, and we got trade raped. But Frank Clark’s value didn’t exactly go down that year when it got close to the draft.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:34 AM   #417
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Welp. Horrible situation but this may lead to some movement with Sneed.

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Old 03-20-2024, 09:36 AM   #418
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No reason to doubt Veach in this. Breer put out yesterday that he believes it will still most likely be a second rounder. The first couple waves of FA have already come and gone. There’s no reason to rush this.

Granted it’s not an exact comparison, and we got trade raped. But Frank Clark’s value didn’t exactly go down that year when it got close to the draft.
Sounds like the biggest wild card is Sneed and his agents being stuck on 22 million a year.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:37 AM   #419
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You kept saying neither Sneed nor Jones would play for the Chiefs this year. That's what you were slammed for. Now you're trying to pivot to something else.
Whatever. I said last summer Veach wouldn't cave and he didn't. He did this time and it's the only time he has. I also said Sneed will demand to be the highest paid CB and he is doing just that and that is the only reason he's still here. I also brought up his knee and got slammed. Well, his knee is an issue and it's verified. Get some right and you get some wrong like everyone on CP does. Only I get the shaft and ridiculed for it's but never a good word when right.

Sneed isn't a Chiefs yet. Tag isn't signed and maybe a team caves in after the draft when who they wanted they didn't get or he changes his contract demands but it is leaning towards him playing on the tag. Either way we are not getting the picks we want and maybe none at all.
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Old 03-20-2024, 09:37 AM   #420
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