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Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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#4096 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
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#4097 |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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I would say that Spags should be given one more season and allow Veach to address the Dline like he has other position groups. A lack of a consistent pass rush (outside Jones) would make any Defensive Coordinator look bad.
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#4098 |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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Yeah, I mean it's all "FIRE SPAGS" but like...what would you do different?
don't blitz? Ok, well, you're going to get picked apart because we flat can't get there with 4. Do blitz? Ok, well, you're risking a lot, with an extremely young secondary. Play zone? Well, that was the first half against Cincinnati. Didn't look like that works too well against the elite QB's if you can't get to them with 4, they'll just wait for someone to find a hole in the zone. Play man? Well, ok, but then Russell Wilson runs for 50 yards because your defenders are running with the receivers and have their backs to the line. I mean, this is nuts. Lots of criticism, no answers. We can't get to the QB with 4. All issues stem from that. It would make ANY defensive coordinator look bad. |
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#4099 |
Why so serious?
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chicago
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There's no part of me that would feel confident another DC would clearly get more out of our very young defense at this point.
I absolutely am not convinced that the grass is greener. Give the guy more time with a group that's still growing. |
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#4100 | |
Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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Spags isn't going to reinvent himself again. If we are keeping him we need better pass-rush and an elite safety next year, otherwise just pick a guy that specializes in running shell coverages. |
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Mahomes Fanboi
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Players enjoy/respect playing for him, and that is huge. |
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#4102 | |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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that shit works if you can get pressure with 4, PERIOD. You guys that think there's some defensive scheme that solves everything regardless of talent are batshit. |
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#4103 |
You gotta kill a few people
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#4104 |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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Very true and from reading some other posts, it appears yesterday looked far worse than it was. They do have to clean up some things though as they can’t afford to give up a big TD like they did to Mack or the busted coverage TD to Jeudy (I believe).
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#4105 |
Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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I am talking about next year. And yes, they need more pass-rush which is why I wanted more than just Dunlap this year.
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#4106 |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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If Mahomes doesn't throw 3 picks, we're not even having this conversation.
People need to calm the **** down. |
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It was as bad as it appeared. |
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#4108 |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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Specialize in shell coverage? Do you even know what shell coverages are?
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#4109 |
MVP
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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I'm sorry, I just have to say this about all this "shell coverage" "Fangio is a genius, we should run that scheme" shit.
That scheme is not new. It's old. It's as old as the forward ****ing pass. It's not special. It's not some kind of cheat code. IF and it's a big IF: you can successfully rush the passer with 4, then you can sit back in coverage with 7, taking away the big play and clog passing lanes. If you CANNOT rush with 4, you will look very, very bad. The reason it works against the Mahomes/Allen/Burrows of the league is because those defenses running it well can all get rush the passer with 4. You want the defensive cheatcode? Have 4 pass rushers that can win one on ones consistently. That's it. That's the whole ****ing thing. If you don't have that, then you have to live and die by the blitz, like Kansas City does. It's that simple, and everything else is nonsense. |
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#4110 |
Three-Pat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
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Yes all day long. I would like to see any Defensive Coordinator that had any sort of success beyond a couple of games without a pass rush. Even average QBs can look great if they have all day to throw. Even the best look bad when they have no time to throw. Look at the Pats/Giants SB when the record setting and undefeated Patriots offense was stifled because they got a ton of pressure on Brady. Same with the record setting Broncos offense against the Seahawks.
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