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07-28-2020, 09:35 AM | #40921 | |
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07-28-2020, 09:45 AM | #40922 |
Consuming CP souls
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All that's being done is buying time. This thing is going to tear through everyone eventually.
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07-28-2020, 09:46 AM | #40923 | |
In Search of a Life
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07-28-2020, 09:47 AM | #40924 |
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I 100% don't understand this mentality. Do you deny that IFRs are far lower today than they were 4 months ago? And do you see some reason that that trend won't continue? There's tons of positive news lately both on the vaccine and therapeutic fronts, so it seems pretty obvious that the longer you keep infection rates low, the better things will be.
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07-28-2020, 09:55 AM | #40925 |
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I wont argue that a 6 week hard lock down out the gate wouldn't have mitigated most of this, but that is 100% hindsight that almost no one thought was necessary back in early March.
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07-28-2020, 09:56 AM | #40926 |
Consuming CP souls
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07-28-2020, 10:02 AM | #40927 |
Cool as a Cucumber
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Anecdotal story of a 20 year old via Facebook:
Since July 1st I have been the sickest I have ever been. For those that do not know, I tested positive for Coronavirus at the beginning of the month. But, I failed to get better. After two ER trips, chest x-rays, and CT scans it was learned I needed more intensive care and I was transferred to KU Med in Kansas City. Imagine being 20 years old and getting told you’re not only part of a pandemic, but you’re going to a hospital two hours from home for who knows how long and you cannot have any visitors, not even parents. I spent three days in ICU, five days in isolation in a covid wing, and now I’m on day 3 of progressive care. It was learned I have developed an incredibly destructive secondary infection in my right lung due to my Covid infection. I’ve spent the last 9 days with a chest tube hanging out between my ribs draining liquid infection. Yes, it hurts. At all times. It was recently discovered that the secondary infection has done enough damage to require surgery to remove most of if not all of my lung, as it is now too infected to survive. Hopefully I will have surgery sometime this week so I can begin the long road to recovery. Friends, especially those of my age, please use my experience as an example. I am 2 weeks away from turning 21 years old. We are not immune and we are not invincible to this disease because we are young and healthy. I never thought it a million years I would get sick. I went out, I hung out with friends, I never wore a mask. And now I regret it all. We are still at risk. Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Stay safe. |
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07-28-2020, 10:05 AM | #40928 | |
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I think the lockdown we did was fine, we shoulda let cases get lower before we blasted out. Now we are dealing with it. It is waht it is. |
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07-28-2020, 10:18 AM | #40929 |
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Kansas Governor is threatening lockdown next week
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07-28-2020, 10:19 AM | #40930 |
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Okay so say we let cases get lower. What would make you think they wouldn't rise again when we re-opened?
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07-28-2020, 10:20 AM | #40931 | |
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Once that happens it's too late. If you have them on a downward trend then slowly reopen you would hope you could keep them low. |
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07-28-2020, 10:22 AM | #40932 |
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I think that's a very myopic view to be honest. It assumes you can lock down harder and stay locked down longer without any ancillary effects or unintended consequences. Just saying.
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07-28-2020, 10:22 AM | #40933 |
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Are you saying that a planned, and followed, phased reopening plan works?
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07-28-2020, 10:22 AM | #40934 | |
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Those first three are the big one. There's no such thing as an IFR of a representative slice of the entire population anymore, since older and more at-risk people are behaving different. So this idea of a blanket IFR is mostly academic now imo. It's all about the demographics of your current case population. |
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07-28-2020, 10:24 AM | #40935 | |
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But to your point, the U.S. populace has shown that we're unwilling to subject ourselves to the measures necessary to contract trace effectively, and we're unwilling to voluntarily abide by guidelines. So I've pretty much given up on anything but a vaccine. We're the pity of the world at this point, and it just is what it is. |
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