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07-27-2020, 08:32 PM | #40891 | |
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07-27-2020, 08:33 PM | #40892 | |
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07-27-2020, 08:33 PM | #40893 |
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07-27-2020, 08:43 PM | #40894 | |
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07-27-2020, 08:46 PM | #40895 |
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07-27-2020, 09:34 PM | #40896 | |
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07-27-2020, 09:50 PM | #40897 |
Sometimes it's black and white
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07-27-2020, 10:05 PM | #40898 |
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I always love to check in on this thread and find Pete. Continuing to get owned.
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07-27-2020, 10:17 PM | #40899 |
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I like Pete
I like Lewdog **** me that I enjoy dialogue......in a monologue world Both Pete and Lew kick ass......keep on keeping on boys |
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07-27-2020, 10:27 PM | #40900 |
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I have purposely been out of the loop. I was just surprised a band aid station out in bfe could get results that fast when we're still hearing about people in much larger areas, that I assume have much better hospitals, having to wait days for results.
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07-28-2020, 05:04 AM | #40901 |
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Spain's experience shows that Sweden's Covid approach could have been right all along
At the end of this we may well conclude that countries which attempted total suppression of the virus killed their economies for zero gain Of all the countries which have imposed lockdown on their citizens, none approached the matters with as much enthusiasm as did Spain. Outdoor exercise was banned, citizens were fined if their dared visit the second-closest pharmacy to their homes and children were allowed no excuse to be out of doors at all. The police set about enforcing the rules with a zealousness matched only by the French: in one town a group of residents were seized upon for trying to get around the ‘no exercise’ rule by taking the same dog for multiple walks... That is the logic once you establish a policy which puts suppression of a virus above all other economic and social concerns. Once you make a god out of the R-number there is no way out, short of what may well turn out to be an elusive vaccine. Do we want to suppress our lives for a year, five years, 10 years – or even decades, as Sage member Sir Jeremy Farrar suggested last week as a lifespan of the Covid-19 crisis? There is, and always was, another way: that followed by Sweden (and initially in Britain, too, however much the government now tries to deny it), where it is accepted that Covid-19 will inevitably find some way of working its way through the human population – and that we control it rather than try to stop it, relying on herd immunity eventually to frustrate it. Yet as Spain’s experience shows, it is far too early to declare the Swedish experiment a failure. Indeed, many "lockdown countries" like Spain, Italy and Britain already have higher death rates than Sweden. At the end of this we may well look back and conclude the virus ended up doing what it was always going to do – kill a small but fairly consistent percentage of citizens across all countries – and that countries which attempted total suppression of the virus killed their economies for zero gain. http://archive.is/t0r0b#selection-869.0-869.505 |
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07-28-2020, 06:09 AM | #40902 | |
In Search of a Life
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07-28-2020, 06:57 AM | #40903 | |
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I'm in NY. My metropolitan area has 1 million people. I have been wearing a mask for 5 months, businesses and schools were closed and we have 673 deaths per million. Sweden has under 600. I wish we had followed what they did instead of destroy peoples lives and businesses. We also will see a spike in crime, suicides, heart disease, domestic abuse, child abuse. Oh well, at least we imagined we were achieving something. |
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07-28-2020, 07:09 AM | #40904 | |
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07-28-2020, 07:25 AM | #40905 | |
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I've only been dealing with this daily for a few months now. Can you imagine if every person who had brief interaction with someone was considered a exposed and had to quarantine? It would be ludicrous which is apparently what you believe. |
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