***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep was just about to say some of the same things. I may never have to go back into work.

My wife manages teams all over the world from her home office with just a computer and a headset. The agency, which is one of the largest the world over, has indicated it'll be at least 2 full years before they even begin to think about staffing their offices again, with this happening across the board in many different industries.

But with new challenges come new innovations and new ways of thinking, which will undoubtedly ruffle the feather of "Old School" employees and managers, but now that the train is rolling full speed, it'll be impossible to stop.

I think it was just a matter of time before this happened but the virus exacerbated it by probably a decade.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I'm cool with having more accessible hand sanitizer everywhere, but no, this is not going to be my forever new normal.

How selfish of you.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, that statement could mean many different things. Unless there's mounting evidence that Covid isn't or won't eventually mutate into a less harmful version of itself,.

I was at my PMD the other day and she told me that the latest journals she has been reading on the virus is that it is mutating every 2 weeks and slowly but surely is becoming less virulent with each mutation. Not out of the woods yet obviously but its getting closer.

[BigCatDaddy]

CDC guidelines come down hard in favor of opening schools

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/healt...W_53O-VeIapLhY

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

CDC guidelines come down hard in favor of opening schools

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/healt...W_53O-VeIapLhY

Those are not their original guidelines. It took a huge push from the White House for them to lighten their recommendations, which of course, is horseshit.

But hey, let's send 75 million kids back to school but cancel people at their convention out of fear of a massive spread of the virus, which totally makes sense.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

CDC guidelines come down hard in favor of opening schools

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/healt...W_53O-VeIapLhY

No credible doctor wrote that.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

CDC guidelines come down hard in favor of opening schools

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/healt...W_53O-VeIapLhY

GTFO, everyone knows where those guidelines came from.

[BigCatDaddy]

Got us some CDC deniers now, I see. I am TOTALLY shocked for one.

[jdubya]

Feel sorry for this years freshman college classes. Incoming freshman will not be allowed to participate in social clubs, intramural sports or enjoy so many activities which enhances the college experience. Sad

[BigCatDaddy]

Interesting map of the plans for HS football at this point.

[Discuss Thrower]

It's an inaccurate map. Virginia has cancelled the season.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's an inaccurate map. Virginia has cancelled the season.

Thanks. I don't know when it was created. I'd assumed recently.

Interesting that almost all of the Midwest is a go, but MO still hadn't committed.

[Bearcat]

IMO, it's mostly the idiocy with the headline of that article, quickly followed by this in the 2nd paragraph: "But the new guidelines posted Thursday do recommend that local officials should consider closing schools, or keeping them closed, if there is substantial, uncontrolled transmission of the virus."

And then in the actual guidelines it mentions the importance of proper hygiene in schools, sanitizing and cleaning, etc.

"ERMERGERD THE CDC SAYS ALL KIDS NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.... well, except in that one part where it's no longer black and white and other considerations.

The guidelines seem fine at a glance... it's the click bait headline that's reeruned.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I was at my PMD the other day and she told me that the latest journals she has been reading on the virus is that it is mutating every 2 weeks and slowly but surely is becoming less virulent with each mutation. Not out of the woods yet obviously but its getting closer.

The 2 week virus

(That's good news of true though)

[loochy]

Originally Posted by stumppy

GTFO, everyone knows where those guidelines came from.

They came from the CDC