***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Are you asking me or yourself?

I'm asking you what your issue is with Dr. Fauci. Please be specific.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm asking you what your issue is with Dr. Fauci. Please be specific.

None. Is that specific enough?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

None. Is that specific enough?

You have no issues with Fauci, and you stated this:

I do find it amusing that some of the same folks that see anybody else in that picture besides Fauci and they would become unglued but....it is Fauci so..........must defend!

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

You have no issues with Fauci, and you stated this:

I do find it amusing that some of the same folks that see anybody else in that picture besides Fauci and they would become unglued but....it is Fauci so..........must defend!

That shows I have issues with Fauci? How so?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

That shows I have issues with Fauci? How so?

Beats me. Perhaps you're envious of him?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

Beats me. Perhaps you're envious of him?

Maybe you are you projecting? Can you show me where I am "envious" of Dr. Fauci?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Maybe you are you projecting? Can you show me where I am "envious" of Dr. Fauci?

Well, this is boring. I asked if you were envious.

If you don't wish to elaborate on why you have issues with Fauci, that's fine.

[dlphg9]

God dammit, who left the door open and let in all the nuts?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, this is boring. I asked if you were envious.

If you don't wish to elaborate on why you have issues with Fauci, that's fine.

I missed the question mark after your statement of "Perhaps you are envious of him?" OK, my answer is no, I am not envious of him.

You are the one trying to make a case of me having an issue with him but are really having a difficult time making it. Perhaps you should use your energy for other things that need doing in your life?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

And the fact that he's sitting with a whole two people outdoors, and the outlandishly wild assumption that him and his wife could be getting tested fairly often, and that everyone not living under a rock knows by now that the concern has always been and will continue to be the chance of spreading it among larger groups and particularly indoors, and....


Cartwheels!

I asserted a LONG TIME AGO and caught flack for it, that the strict mask standards doesn't account for the extent of and scrupulous attendance to other mitigation measures that individuals might have put a lot of effort into that might make their reticence to add the Kabuki theatre of masking more rational.

But then again, **** me for trying to maintain a level head.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I missed the question mark after your statement of "Perhaps you are envious of him?" OK, my answer is no, I am not envious of him.

You are the one trying to make a case of me having an issue with him but are really having a difficult time making it. Perhaps you should use your energy for other things that need doing in your life?

Wait, you missed a ? in a Donger post?????

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Fauci never thought masks were very effective anyway......I dont disagree with him. After all he is the expert. Who am I to question the worlds greatest virologist and epidemiologist? Like Fauci, Ill likely wear my mask indoors in public places.....but outdoors.....meh, whatever.

Where did he say they weren’t effective?

I disagree with him initially down playing wearing masks (it was to preserve PPE). But I haven’t read anywhere where he has said masks don’t help reduce transmission.

[Discuss Thrower]

"We will not be going back to the old normal," said Dr. Tedros Adhanom during the WHO COVID-19 press conference today. Read the transcript: https://t.co/Uf2qTJrw5a

— Rev Transcripts (@RevTranscripts) July 23, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

"We will not be going back to the old normal," said Dr. Tedros Adhanom during the WHO COVID-19 press conference today. Read the transcript: https://t.co/Uf2qTJrw5a

— Rev Transcripts (@RevTranscripts) July 23, 2020

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

"We will not be going back to the old normal," said Dr. Tedros Adhanom during the WHO COVID-19 press conference today. Read the transcript: https://t.co/Uf2qTJrw5a

— Rev Transcripts (@RevTranscripts) July 23, 2020

**** off with that shit Dr. Tedros.