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09-16-2019, 06:37 AM | #391 | |
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It doesn't hurt your cap now, and doesn't preclude trading for a top corner now if that is a possibility. |
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09-16-2019, 07:33 AM | #392 | |
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But man I just dunno. |
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09-16-2019, 07:34 AM | #393 | |
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09-16-2019, 07:37 AM | #394 | |
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If Minkah Fitzpatrick is available at #32, would you draft him? **** yes you do. You have a less than stellar defense and he's a borderline top ten talent. More so actually, because he's already NFL proven. He'd clearly be the best player available. You guys are overthinking this. |
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09-16-2019, 07:39 AM | #395 |
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What are you muttonheaded chuckle****s talking about? The offer is for a 3rd and Ragland. Miami would be foolish to turn that down.
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09-16-2019, 07:40 AM | #396 | |
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But still, what position does he play? |
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09-16-2019, 07:40 AM | #397 | |
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09-16-2019, 07:40 AM | #398 |
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we are going to trade for fitzpatrick and make the dolphins pay for it
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09-16-2019, 07:57 AM | #399 |
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what do you mean? He can play several roles.
I think people get way to hung up on 'position' versus 'role'. This isn't the NFL we grew up on. Things have changed. You can't just line up and play bump'n'run man coverage every play and our guys beat your guys. Modern defenses have to mix and match and disguise coverages to have any success. The more guys you have with multiple skill sets the better. Mathieu is a good example; his value is in his versatility. Are there better deep safeties? yeah. But he's good there. Are there better box safeties? Yeah, but he's good there too. Are there better coverage guys for the slot? Yeah, but he's good there. He can even give you some outside coverage and do that pretty well too. Not Patrick Peterson good, but a few snaps here and there and he can make it work. Same with Thornhill. Same with Fitzpatrick. The era of the "shutdown corner" is over. It doesn't really exist within the current rule structure. He can do several things at a high level. He can cover man, he can cover zone, he can play deep, he can play shallow. He can give you some outside responsibility, he can give you some slot capability. As far as cap-wise in coming years, you can let Fuller walk when his deal is up and he can take that spot. Conceivably, when Honey Badger's deal is up, he can man that spot, depending on how you draft and develop over the next couple of seasons. He's plus defensive talent, and stockpiling that while on rookie deals is always a good bet. |
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09-16-2019, 08:00 AM | #400 | |
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I won't really be that upset, a lot of draft guys said he is a really high level player, so if they make the move, fine. But they need a CB that can really play outside and I dunno that he can. |
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09-16-2019, 08:02 AM | #401 |
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It's the same thing as the DL, when Veach and Spags talk about guys being able to play inside or outside.
You can create mismatches with your versatility. Don't think of things in terms of traditional labeled positions so much as skillsets to be utilized in the scheme/packages. |
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09-16-2019, 08:02 AM | #402 |
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It’s a fair question though because you already have Thornhill, Mathieu, and Fuller who are more than fine in their roles.
If we trade for Fitzpatrick, it’s likely because they think he can play outside. I’m just not so sure that they think that. |
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09-16-2019, 08:02 AM | #403 | |
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09-16-2019, 08:04 AM | #404 |
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What's wrong with having another hybrid player?
Maybe Fitzpatrick plays the slot and Fuller plays boundary full-time, replacing Ward. Maybe Fitzpatrick plays S and they rotate Thornhill to a boundary corner position playing Ward's snaps. Maybe they have a hybrid 4-1-6 scheme in mind where they play 3 safeties and 3 CB and can move the S all over the place. |
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09-16-2019, 08:06 AM | #405 |
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I think this is a no brainer for a number of reasons.
He either replaces Fuller next year for pennies on the dollar, or you now have Fuller at CB#2 and this dude in the slot, I don't really know what's not to like. |
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