***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Working in the health field I've been tested 4 different times since March. One I went through and did a drive through PCR test offered by the county, the other 3 times was after potential exposure to an employee that was positive. I was rapid tested 3 out of the 4 times.

I'd like to hope that the people who truly need them are able to get quick turnarounds.

Not everyone needs a PCR test done, IMO. Do antigen testing of people. If they test positive, ok great. If they test negative and are exhibiting classic signs, then do the PCR swab

How was the rapid testing experience? A doctor on TV just now said by fall there will be 6 or so rapid testing devices which is what we need. We really need something simple to do at home as well.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

How was the rapid testing experience? A doctor on TV just now said by fall there will be 6 or so rapid testing devices which is what we need. We really need something simple to do at home as well.

The Q-Tip still tickles part of your brain, but not the whole thing. They still jam it up there pretty good. It's crucial you let them so that they get a good sample.

Outside of that it takes about 15 minutes to get results. The jury is out on how accurate the rapid tests are. I think antigen testing is somewhere in the range of 80-85% accurate. The Abbot machine I've had 2 tests done on seem to be a mystery as far as accuracy goes. (I've seen claims of up to 95%, but back when it was released, there was a fuss over people possibly using it incorrectly causing it to only identify like 50% of cases accurately)

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by TLO

The Q-Tip still tickles part of your brain, but not the whole thing. They still jam it up there pretty good. It's crucial you let them so that they get a good sample.

Outside of that it takes about 15 minutes to get results. The jury is out on how accurate the rapid tests are. I think antigen testing is somewhere in the range of 80-85% accurate. The Abbot machine I've had 2 tests done on seem to be a mystery as far as accuracy goes. (I've seen claims of up to 95%, but back when it was released, there was a fuss over people possibly using it incorrectly causing it to only identify like 50% of cases accurately)

Ive probably said this before but my county has the newer non invasive test that only swabs the inside of the nostril. I wonder why more states and counties still have the brain pokers?

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Going to cross 145,000 deaths tomorrow in the US

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Going to cross 145,000 deaths tomorrow in the US

Maybe, but McDonalds has served over 300 BILLION hamburgers and counting

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Dude, thats good news. Glad to hear.

PM me your address. May have come across something i could send to you.

Someone’s about to get a bottle of Early Times!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Someone’s about to get a bottle of Early Times!

Oh shit! Never had that.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Oh shit! Never had that.

My grandfathers favorite. It's shitty.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Did you see where even SK supposedly missed 9 out of 10 infections?

Japan is an enigma to me. How they did it i have no clue.

Super crowded cities with crowded public transport. Check.

Little official lockdown. Check.

Elderly population. Check.

Low level of testing and no contact tracing. Check

Very high level of mask wearing and not many hugs or handshakes.



Nah, must be that they have some sort of super genetics.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah hard to get cases when you aren't tracking them...that's honestly probably the way to go too

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Super crowded cities with crowded public transport. Check.

Little official lockdown. Check.

Elderly population. Check.

Low level of testing and no contact tracing. Check

Very high level of mask wearing and not many hugs or handshakes.



Nah, must be that they have some sort of super genetics.

Yeah, but they don't have FREEDOMS and CAMAROS

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Ive probably said this before but my county has the newer non invasive test that only swabs the inside of the nostril. I wonder why more states and counties still have the brain pokers?

I asked my doctor why they are stabbing brains and she said it’s much more accurate.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

I asked my doctor why they are stabbing brains and she said it’s much more accurate.

So let me get this straight


There's a supervirus of death that pretty much instantly infects everyone that encounters it, is apparently passed on by simply breathing, lives in detectable amounts on surfaces for days, etc....


...and they can't detect it unless they basically touch your brain?


Something is off here...

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/...690719744?s=21

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/peterpham/status...466333697?s=21