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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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Old 02-18-2024, 10:21 PM   #39916
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Yeah these 10 year old phenoms seldom pan out.. All the other kids catch up and they stay the same..
Pretty much. I knew a guy who played like Michael Jordan in middle school, completely dominated everyone, once HS started he got lost in the shuffle with other good players and didn’t pan out like everyone thought he would.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:52 PM   #39917
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:53 PM   #39918
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:01 PM   #39919
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Montana, Bradshaw, and Brady all started with great teams and defenses.

Mahomes had the Chiefs have to rebuild the defense in his first few years.
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:13 PM   #39920
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Montana, Bradshaw, and Brady all started with great teams and defenses.

Mahomes had the Chiefs have to rebuild the defense in his first few years.
And the QB’s of the 1970’s and 1980’s did not have to worry about the salary cap or free agency killing their teams. Tyreek Hill is a good example of this.
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Old 02-20-2024, 12:48 PM   #39921
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Old 02-20-2024, 03:30 PM   #39922
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I think a lot of parental strategies may backfire in this.

If you specialize a kid in one sport in the hope that he/she will be good enough to get a college scholarship, you can invest a lot of money and Eliza Doolittle pretty much any kid up to a "good" level by age 14 or 15 or 16 that gives you false hope. Then the kids who are simply better will grow and be clearly faster/stronger/better and blow by your little Hunter/Tanner/Dakota kid. Coaching and lessons and opportunities will only buy you so much, and it's less than raw talent plus effort in the long run.

Plus, if you specialize your kid, I think he/she loses out on the cross-training benefit of playing different sports, not to mention losing out on the chance that maybe some other sport would end up being their best sport.

Of course, I think the truly elite kids are probably playing multiple sports in high school anyway, just because they're all easy for them. Have you ever looked at Randy Moss's high school resume?

- Back to back state championships in football playing WR, FS, KR, PR, K, and P
- West Virginia player of the year in basketball twice, setting his school record for points while his teammate was future NBA player Jason Williams, though losing the state championship game.
- West Virginia state champion in the 100 and 200 meter dash

Coaching and specialization is not going to beat Randy Moss, and specialization would have only hurt him.
My son has noticed how different sports train the body differently. For example, track absolutely KILLS his hamstrings, while basketball (at a high level), absolutely KILLS his quads.
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Old 02-20-2024, 04:03 PM   #39923
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There was a quote I heard growing up about the Yankees that went something like this...

"Do the Yankees win because they have Derek Jeter? Or because their opponents get lost in their pinstripes?"

I never quite appreciated that cornball question until this playoff run. The Bills, Ravens, and 49ers all had their shot. All 3 mentally let it slip and gave the ball back to Mahomes with a chance to clinch it. In all 3 games, when Mahomes had a chance to end it, he did.
I think those two things go hand in hand.

Teams unquestionably fear Mahomes, and they will act differently and change their strategy, sometimes for the worse, because of Mahomes.

The other half of that equation, is when Mahomes and the offense aren't having a stellar night, but are still in a position to put the game away. That's the team half of it. That's where Andy and Spags brilliance come in to play.

I think Peyton said it best about the Patriots. You have to beat both Brady and Belichick to beat them. Because if either Brady or Belichick are off, the other can do enough to give you a chance to win.
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Old 02-22-2024, 03:57 AM   #39924
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:24 AM   #39925
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My son has noticed how different sports train the body differently. For example, track absolutely KILLS his hamstrings, while basketball (at a high level), absolutely KILLS his quads.
Really? You don't say? Earth shattering news.
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:26 AM   #39926
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Agreed. I don’t get the sense Mahomes was pushed in a strong way by his parents. He didn’t take football seriously until age 16 or 17. He played a bunch of different sports and was pretty damn good at all of them. His family said he was a better basketball player than anything else.

I think the multi-sport childhood has played a major role in Patrick’s success. You can see elements of baseball and basketball in how he plays on the football field. Maybe even soccer elements in his game too.
That crazy ball fake deke he put on that Buffalo? player. Was all point guard.
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Old 02-22-2024, 08:34 AM   #39927
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This popped up in my twitter feed yesterday and thought I'd share it here. At least these talking heads get it when it comes to Mahomes.

https://x.com/GoJoandGolic/status/17...766781650?s=20
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Josh Allen underrated?
If Josh Allen were in the NFC, he definitely would have played in a Super Bowl by now.
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If Josh Allen were in the NFC, he definitely would have played in a Super Bowl by now.
Hell, if he played in an era without Mahomes he damn well might've too.
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If Josh Allen were in the NFC, he definitely would have played in a Super Bowl by now.
And lost to a Chiefs led Mahomes!!!
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