***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

As predicted and replicated, it takes about 3 weeks from when new covid cases spike to the time an increase in deaths are seen. A graph I made from @COVID19Tracking data to show the lag pic.twitter.com/sAVrJFYDwt

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 17, 2020

That's pretty much what I said. But the rate of increase of deaths thus far anyway is better than it was in the NY phase. We have to hope it stays that way.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

As predicted and replicated, it takes about 3 weeks from when new covid cases spike to the time an increase in deaths are seen. A graph I made from @COVID19Tracking data to show the lag pic.twitter.com/sAVrJFYDwt

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 17, 2020

Heh:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=37044

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm not sure how anyone can be optimistic about this virus dying out or going away anytime soon when there was a record number of new cases yesterday of 77,255 with 943 deaths...

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not sure how anyone can be optimistic about this virus dying out or going away anytime soon when there was a record number of new cases yesterday of 77,255 with 943 deaths...

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

Because we're the shittiest country with the dumbest assholes in the history of the cosmos.

Now everyone get out there and save the economy while preserving my fragile sensibilities through Kabuki theatre.

We're all in this together, you worthless mother****ers.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

No way that's happening.

Why? It already happened before. If at 40k cases from 4 weeks ago that means 1000 deaths now. Then 71k now and 2,000 deaths isn't outside the realm of possibility.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's pretty much what I said. But the rate of increase of deaths thus far anyway is better than it was in the NY phase. We have to hope it stays that way.

That's because it's not March and April.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

I would imagine because we reopened in most places when the epidemic was actually increasing, not decreasing.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’m guessing if we’d have been testing before like we are now, we’d have seen the cases go up like this in New York

Yes, Accurate...BUT....the trend is not encouraging. Areas are becoming a hot spot almost like NY and it's SUMMER.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

We have a lot more people, and people obviously aren't following the directions. People still don't seem to grasp that a lot of these other countries just aren't going to fight over the mask thing or social distancing like we do... our stubbornness can be a good thing many times, but in this case it's probably making things worse.

The other big risk is we're letting this spread so much and so widely, if it mutates in a bad way it could be ugly. If you knock it down like these other countries have, it's less likely a bad mutation of this thing is going to spread. That's not going to happen here.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Because we're the shittiest country with the dumbest assholes in the history of the cosmos.

Now everyone get out there and save the economy while preserving my fragile sensibilities through Kabuki theatre.

We're all in this together, you worthless mother****ers.

Great hyperbole. So well-written. I am sure you're very proud of your latest draft. Definitely on par with your penchant for the extremely dramatic.

I think the more grounded response is that some societies and cultures are better at mobilizing than others.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Pants

Great hyperbole. So well-written. I am sure you're very proud of your latest draft. Definitely on par with your penchant for the extremely dramatic.

I think the more grounded response is that some societies and cultures are better at mobilizing than others.

Nah, I think I captured the zeitgeist infinitely better.

That pain you're sensing might be the spark of recognition.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

That's because it's not March and April.

Um....okay?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

Cause we just let it spread like wild and didn't control it?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its eventually died out everywhere else its been no matter how bad it was including Italy.

Why would the US have a year long battle when its not happened in any other place no matter the intensity or severity of the outbreak?

Short answer they wore masks, maintained social distancing and were cautious with reopening.

And now they are reaping the rewards of their diligence and we are reaping the rewards of our selfish idiocy