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08-23-2018, 09:01 PM | #3916 |
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With 2 outs and the bases loaded in a tied ballgame, Royals reliever Brian Flynn got the Rays Kevin Kiermauer to hit a hard-hit grounder to first-baseman Ryan O'Hearn, who made a nice play to glove the ball, but he then got up and threw low and a little bit away from the plate to Salvy Perez, who was trying to get the force play at home and so was not able to keep the ball from clanging off his catcher's mitt while he stretched to catch the errant throw. So Rays win on a walk-off error.
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08-23-2018, 09:03 PM | #3917 |
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And certain members will give excuses for Dayton Moore no matter what about how the job is hard and the draft is a crapshoot.
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08-23-2018, 09:05 PM | #3918 | |
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Welp, maybe it's a blessing if we get to pick #1... |
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08-23-2018, 09:39 PM | #3919 |
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Nice article in the athletic about newberry.
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08-23-2018, 09:51 PM | #3920 |
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08-23-2018, 09:58 PM | #3921 |
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So did Ned Yost, yet he gets shit on all the time. As the World Series gets further and further away and we continue to lose 100+ games it's going to be harder for anyone to defend him. Of course, there are plenty of sunshine pumpers who defend him no matter what. I give him credit for having a decent 2018 draft and making some halfway decent trades with what we had to work with. I also have no problem with criticizing him for doing almost nothing in the draft for the past half decade. I see no problem with criticizing him for coming up empty year after year in the international market. He's reached the point where he basically needs to hit on the majority of his moves, because he's been so miserable ever since the world series that his failures have directly led to us being the worst team in the majors.
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08-23-2018, 10:08 PM | #3922 | |
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08-23-2018, 10:20 PM | #3923 |
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The thing is, there are similar small market or limited budget franchises like Oakland, Tampa, Cleveland, etc. that just do it so much better. Now, we won the world series recently and none of them have, so of course I'll take the championship over merely being competitive. But there absolutely is a recipe for not having to tank this bad. I'm definitely going to enjoy the chance we have to get guaranteed top 5 draft picks the next several years, but I'm extremely skeptical that Moore will be able to capitalize.
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08-23-2018, 11:15 PM | #3924 |
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08-24-2018, 06:05 AM | #3925 |
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08-24-2018, 06:19 AM | #3926 | |
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Hey man: **** you. I consistently have said they need to do better in the draft than they have, while consistently saying they’ve done an average job over the course of Moore’s tenure. Average isn’t good enough for KC. They need to be above-average, which they were not in too many years. I mention the facts about draft bust rates and the difficulty of the MLb draft compared to the NFL because some of you consistently ignore those facts and try to look at the Royals’ draft performance through an NFL draft lens. This latest garbage about the Royals never doing anything or finding players in the international market is just another example of ignoring facts. The best young player on the Royals roster at the MLB level is an international signee. The best position player is an international signee. One of the best prospects, who was leading the minors in HR until he hurt his back, is a big dollar international signee from just three years ago. Some of the most important pitchers during the most recent run (Kelvin Herrera and Ventura) were international guys. And they have some promising international signees on the farm, too. Just because this is the first year you paid attention to the international market and they didn’t do anything splashy doesn’t make your narrative about the international market correct. But if you want to just say negative, erroneous shit all the time, I’ll direct you to RoyalsReview.con. You’ll fit right in. They might even give you a job as a writer. |
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08-24-2018, 06:23 AM | #3927 | |
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08-24-2018, 06:31 AM | #3928 | |
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The owners of the Rays and A’s are the two worst and cheapest owners in MLB. So this comparison/claim doesn’t hold up. The A’s haven’t won a WS because ownership for years has refused to make big salary additions to add missing pieces. Same thing for the Rays. David Glass was terrible for a long time but really operates like a model small market owner from the time he hired Moore on. |
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08-24-2018, 06:44 AM | #3929 |
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Tampa was a model franchise when Andrew Friedman was there, when he took the Dodgers job that team cratered.
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08-24-2018, 07:08 AM | #3930 | |
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The Rays have the same record as Friedman's Dodgers with effectively a minor league payroll. That's still an excellent organization with probably the best manager in baseball that nobody knows about. |
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