***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing with that is that for most of the stuff we use in the medical field, the general population can't get.

You can't go to my dental firms and start ordering stuff without license numbers.

So that woudn't have happened to that large of a degree.

Masks, gowns, IPA, booties, and gloves were all on major backorder starting in early February through our suppliers.

[Loneiguana]

Two employees at the MO state capital have tested positive, confirmed on the same day the governor calls a special session in less than two weeks for "violence".

Jeff City is about to become a petri dish.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I hope you get COVID and go into respiratory distress. I hope you have a lack of oxygen to your brain for a few minutes, which causes you complete loss of your arms so you can never post on CP again.

I hope a ventilator saves your life though.

Can I hire you to write a poem for my next anniversary? Tia

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then why the US nearly run out of masks?

The national stockpile was nearly depleted in April and since China was locked down, they weren't cranking out new masks, either.

Couldn't tell ya. I know we found it hard to get them for a while, not so much now.

I think it just took a while to fire up supply chains to where they need to be. With protocols they put in place for hospitals, you can churn thru that shit so fast.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Masks, gowns, IPA, booties, and gloves were all on major backorder starting in early February through our suppliers.

We had problems with it. Seems to be getting back to normal now, but who the hell knows.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Whoa was bearenstien beara always spelled like that?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts...ticle25972071/

The theory goes like this: The popular series of illustrated children’s books is officially called The Berenstain Bears (named after their creators), but that can’t be right, because we all remember them being spelled “Berenstein,” which means not that we were all wrong but that their spelling changed at some point in history, a point at which two time streams or parallel realities diverged. In other words, we just jumped tracks somehow and the other reality in which they are still called Berenstein still exists somewhere. You might think of them as Schrodinger’s Bears: simultaneously Berenstain and Berenstein.

The funny thing is I would have bet money it was "Bernstein" and not either of those.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

Not N95 masks.

For sure. But again, most medical supply lines where we get those aren't available to the general public.

[O.city]

I've always changed shoes and clothes when i get to the office and when i leave anyway, so the booties weren't a problem as i don't need those.

Masks and gloves were a real bitch for a while though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Couldn't tell ya. I know we found it hard to get them for a while, not so much now.

I think it just took a while to fire up supply chains to where they need to be. With protocols they put in place for hospitals, you can churn thru that shit so fast.

Good grief, man.

It was initially announced that N95 masks wouldn't help because the national stock pile had been nearly completely depleted, leaving only those retailers that had masks in stock as an option.

Had the recommendation been made to wear a mask from Day One, healthcare workers wouldn't have been protected because the masks would have disappeared from shelves and online retailers within days of the announcement, just like toilet paper, pasta and many other items.

[displacedinMN]

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[suzzer99]

8. Don't prance around in your Mom's mask, no matter how good it feels.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good grief, man.

It was initially announced that N95 masks wouldn't help because the national stock pile had been nearly completely depleted, leaving only those retailers that had masks in stock as an option.

Had the recommendation been made to wear a mask from Day One, healthcare workers wouldn't have been protected because the masks would have disappeared from shelves and online retailers within days of the announcement, just like toilet paper, pasta and many other items.

If only there were an alternative to medical grade PPE that had been used by the general public in a past pandemic.

[petegz28]

Kansas postpones school opening until after labor day. 4 hours after the KBOE unanimously approved the re-opening plan.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Kansas postpones school opening until after labor day. 4 hours after the KBOE unanimously approved the re-opening plan.

I saw that. What good does that do?

[Discuss Thrower]

Kids shouldn't go to school before Labor Day anyway.