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Old 01-19-2020, 07:03 PM  
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Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)
Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:11 PM   #3901
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:13 PM   #3902
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We play Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. As of two years ago it was all of them + Khalil Mack.

AFC West is as good of a pass rush division as yours
Sack Counts:

Miller - 8
Chubb - 13
Bosa - 11.5
Ingram - 7

Donald - 12.5
Jones - 19
Fowler - 11.5
Armstead - 10
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:18 PM   #3903
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:18 PM   #3904
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yea Fowler and Armstead are better than Miller and Ingram! Just look at their sack totals in one individual season for proof!
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:20 PM   #3905
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Sack Counts:

Miller - 8
Chubb - 13
Bosa - 11.5
Ingram - 7

Donald - 12.5
Jones - 19
Fowler - 11.5
Armstead - 10
With the exception of the insane year by Chandler Jones, those numbers are pretty comparable
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:20 PM   #3906
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yea Fowler and Armstead are better than Miller and Ingram! Just look at their sack totals in one individual season for proof!
I just laid out facts, Mr. Sensitive
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:23 PM   #3907
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With the exception of the insane year by Chandler Jones, those numbers are pretty comparable
So, just throw out the best pass rusher in the NFC and they are comparable, got it. Also, an interior lineman had a better year than anyone of those players listed.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #3908
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I just laid out facts, Mr. Sensitive
You should just come out and say it then. Which team has stronger pass protection? Seahawks or Chiefs?
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #3909
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4th Best Protection vs 2nd Best Pass Rushing... Unstoppable force vs Immovable Object indeed.

The KC OL faced 3 teams in the top 10 in adjusted sack rate:

5th - Minnesota - 5 sacks (No Mahomes though)
6th - Jacksonville - 0 Sacks
8th - New England - 1 Sack

For comparison sake, SF faced 6 teams in the top 10 in adjusted sack rate including all the teams in the top 5.

Our DLine faced the got 4 sacks against the #1 pass protecting team (the Rams) in our first matchup and 0 in our second matchup.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:26 PM   #3910
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Yeah, because they play us, Aaron Donald, and Chandler Jones twice a year.
You do know that Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati all managed 3+ sacks on Russell Wilson this year, right?
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:27 PM   #3911
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So, just throw out the best pass rusher in the NFC and they are comparable, got it. Also, an interior lineman had a better year than anyone of those players listed.
One player could be considered an outlier.

Also, the Broncos offense was such shit that they didn’t play with many leads (especially with Flacco). It’s not a surprise to see Miller and Chubb have their numbers dip when they’re playing from behind constantly.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:31 PM   #3912
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4th Best Protection vs 2nd Best Pass Rushing... Unstoppable force vs Immovable Object indeed.

The KC OL faced 3 teams in the top 10 in adjusted sack rate:

5th - Minnesota - 5 sacks (No Mahomes though)
6th - Jacksonville - 0 Sacks
8th - New England - 1 Sack

For comparison sake, SF faced 6 teams in the top 10 in adjusted sack rate including all the teams in the top 5.

Our DLine faced the got 4 sacks against the #1 pass protecting team (the Rams) in our first matchup and 0 in our second matchup.
You contradicted yourself in your own post. The Chiefs were 4th in adjusted sack rate (as you said at the beginning of your post), so the 49ers did not face all the teams in the top 5.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:34 PM   #3913
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We play Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. As of two years ago it was all of them + Khalil Mack.

AFC West is as good of a pass rush division as yours
Nah, Von Miller had 8 sacks this year, Chubb had 1, Ingram had 7... for a total of 16 sacks between them.

Chandler Jones had 19 by himself.

According to adjusted sack rate:
2nd SF
7th LAR
10th KC
11th DEN
15th ARI
25th LAC
27th OAK
30th SEA

So no, this year the pass rush in the AFCW wasn't even close to the NFCW.
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You contradicted yourself in your own post. The Chiefs were 4th in adjusted sack rate (as you said at the beginning of your post), so the 49ers did not face all the teams in the top 5.
KC is 4th in Offensive Adjusted Sack Rate (i.e. Pass Protection) and 10th in Defensive Adjusted Sack Rate (Pass Rush).

The 49ers played the rest of the top 5 pass rushing teams:

PIT, SF, CAR, WAS, MIN.

KC only played one of them.
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