***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

FYI I’m not freaking out and I think my wife has it now too. The point is that the most logical thing I have IS COVID given my state, job and all the staff testing positive around me all within 7 days of each other. I’m not sure who would think otherwise.

It's just weird because you "already had it". I am not saying you don't. I am just saying it could be and hopefully is something else. It's like I said last night, lew, maybe you didn't see it. My neighbor is a bar tender and one of their cooks told the owner he had a fever, cough, fatigue the whole nine yards. The rightfully shut down, cleaned and had almost 200 people tested. No one, not even the cook tested positive.

So while I share your concern and understand it, it is possible and let's hope it is something else.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It's just weird because you "already had it". I am not saying you don't. I am just saying it could be and hopefully is something else. It's like I said last night, lew, maybe you didn't see it. My neighbor is a bar tender and one of their cooks told the owner he had a fever, cough, fatigue the whole nine yards. The rightfully shut down, cleaned and had almost 200 people tested. No one, not even the cook tested positive.

So while I share your concern and understand it, it is possible and let's hope it is something else.

Learn to read, my situation is different. I have 3 KNOWN positives within the week. My staff.

Now don’t you have a job to go to today?!?!

[KCUnited]

Chicago burb

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/3...mic+Update+-+3

LAKE ZURICH, Ill. — Health officials are working to contain an outbreak of COVID-19 linked to a high school in the northern suburbs.

Lake County health officials say 36 students at Lake Zurich High School have tested positive for the virus.

Officials said the cases may be traced to a number of social gatherings that took place before the school opened its summer athletic camps last week.

During the health screenings for those camps, a number of students were turned away because they already had symptoms, and other student began experience symptoms during the day.

The school has since suspended the camps until further notice.

School officials urge anyone with symptoms or anyone who had contact with a confirmed case to self-quarantine for 14 days.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Learn to read, my situation is different. I have 3 KNOWN positives within the week. My staff.

Now don’t you have a job to go to today?!?!

Learn to read yourself, dick.

[dirk digler]

Oh shit. This should be entertaining.

Walmart, the world's largest retailer, is the latest national chain to issue a rule requiring all customers to wear masks https://t.co/2AHdc7MaUS

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) July 15, 2020

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Learn to read yourself, dick.

You honestly can’t see how those 2 scenarios are worlds apart different?

You’re a special kind of sub 70.

Get to work!

[Donger]

Good.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Oh shit. This should be entertaining.

Walmart, the world's largest retailer, is the latest national chain to issue a rule requiring all customers to wear masks https://t.co/2AHdc7MaUS

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) July 15, 2020

The Karen thread is going to explode..

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Kman34

The Karen thread is going to explode..

That is what I was thinking.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You honestly can’t see how those 2 scenarios are worlds apart different?

You’re a special kind of sub 70.

Get to work!

Yeah, cherry pick one sentence then go off about. **** you, lew. I'm sitting here hoping you don't have Covid and you're blasting me because you "think" you do "again".

[Indian Chief]

FWIW, there was a research letter, from Italy, published last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association that reported nearly 90% of patients in one particular cohort "had at least one persistent symptom 2 months or longer after initial onset."

The focus has rightly been on the acute effects of COVID, but we will have to start monitoring the long-term impact.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It's just weird because you "already had it". I am not saying you don't. I am just saying it could be and hopefully is something else. It's like I said last night, lew, maybe you didn't see it. My neighbor is a bar tender and one of their cooks told the owner he had a fever, cough, fatigue the whole nine yards. The rightfully shut down, cleaned and had almost 200 people tested. No one, not even the cook tested positive.

So while I share your concern and understand it, it is possible and let's hope it is something else.

He tested negative for antibodies , and we have seen in 6 months this virus doesn't always seem to follow known rules , plenty have retested positive after testing negative, is it reactivation, multiple false negatives, reinfection we don't know .

Maybe this first time the viral load wasn't large enough to produce any symptoms or antibodies or maybe it isn't Covid either .

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

He tested negative for antibodies , and we have seen in 6 months this virus doesn't always seem to follow known rules , plenty have retested positive after testing negative, is it reactivation, multiple false negatives, reinfection we don't know .



Maybe this first time the viral load wasn't large enough to produce and symptoms or antibodies or maybe it isn't Covid either .

Thanks, Fauci

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[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What are you, his ****ing Mommy?

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Thanks, Mr Faucu

Most people with sense with use this time to try and learn and maybe improve their critical thinking but nope not you.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Most people with sense with use this time to try and learn and maybe improve their critical thinking but nope not you.

You also insinuated that you only get sinus infections when there is a sinus infection pandemic.

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