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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM  
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...yIbOTl70ncM4Zs

NFL odds: After Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

Frank Schwab 2 hrs ago

We can cease and desist with any debate about someone other than Patrick Mahomes being the NFL MVP favorite.

You’ll hear people argue that Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Alvin Kamara or anyone else should be “in the conversation,” but the only real talk is that the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback is the overwhelming favorite until further notice. Everyone else is vying for NFL offensive player of the year, though Mahomes should probably win that too.

Sunday night’s heroics, leading a game-winning drive over the Las Vegas Raiders everyone knew was coming, solidified Mahomes’ position. He’s the best player in football and he’s having a phenomenal year.

The odds at BetMGM reflect that.

Mahomes is -118 to win MVP at BetMGM. Next on the list is Wilson at +350. Aaron Rodgers is +550 and nobody else is less than 12-to-1.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:33 AM   #376
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I don't think Mahomes gives one absolute **** about mvp trophies. He's sitting on a pile of cash, just waiting to be counting the Hunt and Lombardi trophies and rings.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:42 AM   #377
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Which is awful. The worst. Same with Bayless, Stephen A Smith, anyone at ESPN trying to spew hot takes to make a name for themselves, and most radio ****leheads.
ESPN is not a sports channel anymore at least not Get Up, First Take or the other shows on the other channels, it's more about entertaining.

They must be really pised that someone like Rodgers refuses to appear on their show, but does appear on PatMcAffee
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:50 AM   #378
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The Rodgers no weapons thing is only hammered all the time because the Packers drafted the two most blatant “**** you Rodgers!” positions imaginable this spring.

They didn’t even have to draft a receiving threat. Some defense or OL would have been fine. People probably would have still complained, but they wouldn’t have acted like Rodgers was playing with the cast of the 2012 Chiefs like they are now.

Instead the Packers went with “Heeeeere’s your replacement!” and took an Eddie Lacy clone when they already had two pretty damn good RBs in the backfield.

The receiving threats aren’t as good as they once were for Rodgers. That doesn’t mean they’re shit. At this point in his career, the best help you could give the man is a defense that doesn’t ****ing wilt like spinach in the playoffs
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:51 AM   #379
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I don't think Mahomes gives one absolute **** about mvp trophies. He's sitting on a pile of cash, just waiting to be counting the Hunt and Lombardi trophies and rings.
He cares. He's competitive as hell but I don't think he is losing any sleep over it.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:54 AM   #380
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I have no idea when anyone would listen to the disingenuous drivel like Cowherd. He's on record saying he doesn't care about being right, he cares about being entertaining.

Which is awful. The worst. Same with Bayless, Stephen A Smith, anyone at ESPN trying to spew hot takes to make a name for themselves, and most radio ****leheads.
ESPN is a dumpster fire and has basically just followed all of the other MSM outlets. They can’t just report the news. They get better ratings by interjecting their opinions on everything and make sure to have people on both sides of an issue to create an argument.
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:06 AM   #381
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This narrative that Mahomes has a huge inventory of weapons is not really true. He has Hill and Kelce. Thats about it. Watkins can't stay healthy so to consider him an elite weapon is a stretch, considering the amount of time he spends on IR. Hardman, while fast has not really broken out yet. CEH is good for a rookie, but as of right now he is a significant drop off from when Hunt was here. Our TEs outside of Kelce are horrible to say the least. Mahomes has more to do with the eliteness of this offense than many experts will admit.
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:12 AM   #382
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Instead the Packers went with “Heeeeere’s your replacement!”
Sounds familiar
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:18 AM   #383
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This narrative that Mahomes has a huge inventory of weapons is not really true. He has Hill and Kelce. Thats about it. Watkins can't stay healthy so to consider him an elite weapon is a stretch, considering the amount of time he spends on IR. Hardman, while fast has not really broken out yet. CEH is good for a rookie, but as of right now he is a significant drop off from when Hunt was here. Our TEs outside of Kelce are horrible to say the least. Mahomes has more to do with the eliteness of this offense than many experts will admit.
Lol. Man you homers are funny. He has a HOF TE and a HOF WR and one of best offensive play designers of all-time. That's about it!

Mahomes is clearly best player in NFL. Everyone knows that but that doesn't mean he is always going to win MVP or that he doesn't have more help than most
Other guys may have a better year it happens.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:31 PM   #384
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Please, Aaron Rodgers has a much better offensive line, Matt LaFleur (Great Offensive Playcaller) Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, Marques Valdez-Scantling, etc.

A Rodgers has plenty to work with.
From what I've seen this year, their receivers have been open plenty for him. They use a lot of play action stuff and it seems the defenses actually bite on the play action. They respect the Packers run game.

KC has almost no run game. You don't see as many of those easy play action throws for Mahomes as you do for a lot other teams around the league.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:14 PM   #385
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:18 PM   #386
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Could we see another co-mvp year like with Manning and McNair?
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:47 PM   #387
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Could we see another co-mvp year like with Manning and McNair?
I doubt it, one gets MVP the other probably gets OPOY unless something ridiculous happens like Henry breaking 2k.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:21 PM   #388
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I don't think Mahomes gives one absolute **** about mvp trophies. He's sitting on a pile of cash, just waiting to be counting the Hunt and Lombardi trophies and rings.
He absolutely does. He took being drafted #10 personally as well as being the #4 player in the league last year. He has the Jordan competitiveness without the Jordan attitude.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:35 PM   #389
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The idiot known as Marsellus Wiley says MVP last year is MVP this year based on one game last night.

I don't know if there is a more arrogant know it all dumb ass Than Marcellus Wiley. Maybe a couple of CP posters but they don't have a sports talk show.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:07 PM   #390
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