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Old 11-21-2019, 10:45 PM  
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Tesla Cybertruck

Well, he said it was going to be different.



Starts at $40k, though. That's impressive.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:02 PM   #376
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Kia's have been great cars in recent years. They've come a long way from the crap they built 15-20 years ago. Dodge, yeah that's a bit of a surprise.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:20 PM   #377
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I'm not surprised that Tesla fared poorly - though they are good about fixing things, they're well known for having lots of little issues. I'm more surprised at Dodge and Kia topping the list. That's...hard to believe.
It probably has to do with the frequency. My automatic door handles fail all the time. They fixed it in the newer models but Tesla has fixed it for free the last two times it happened. Had to replace them 3 times. They have a mobile service and come out and fix it while I'm at my house or something though, so not too bad.

I have no complaints with what I've experienced so far with that exception.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:41 PM   #378
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When is the first Tesla truck actually expected to ship?
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:49 PM   #379
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What do we think the implications are of this from last week? Who's going to benefit?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/califor...and-van-sales/

California regulators approved new rules on Thursday that would force automakers to sell more electric work trucks and delivery vans, a first-of-its-kind rule aimed at helping the nation's most populous state clean up its worst-in-the-nation air quality.

The rules, which would not take effect until 2024, will require at least 40% of all tractor trailers sold in California to be zero emission by 2035. For smaller trucks, including models like the Ford F-250, 55% of all sales would be zero emission by 2035. The standard is the toughest for delivery trucks and vans, with 75% of sales required to be zero emission by 2035.

California already has similar rules in place for passenger vehicle sales. But no one has yet imposed rules like these for work trucks, which unlike passenger vehicles are purchased with the intent of returning a profit.

At the last minute, the board also set a goal of making government fleets and last mile delivery trucks entirely electric five years earlier than previously envisioned, by 2035.


(More at link.)
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:20 PM   #380
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When is the first Tesla truck actually expected to ship?
Their claim, or when it'll actually ship?
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:21 PM   #381
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Their claim, or when it'll actually ship?
You know, the Tesla Truck would be a very effective way to avoid getting shot by Antifa and BLM. When they are blocking the street, you can drive slowly through, pestering them about, without fear from being shot through your bulletproof vehicle.

Cheapest way to buy a tank.
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:23 PM   #382
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You know, the Tesla Truck would be a very effective way to avoid getting shot by Antifa and BLM. When they are blocking the street, you can drive slowly through, pestering them about, without fear from being shot through your bulletproof vehicle.

Cheapest way to buy a tank.
That's an interesting take.
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:34 PM   #383
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When is the first Tesla truck actually expected to ship?
Late 2021 in theory.
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Old 07-01-2020, 05:54 PM   #384
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What do we think the implications are of this from last week? Who's going to benefit?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/califor...and-van-sales/

California regulators approved new rules on Thursday that would force automakers to sell more electric work trucks and delivery vans, a first-of-its-kind rule aimed at helping the nation's most populous state clean up its worst-in-the-nation air quality.

The rules, which would not take effect until 2024, will require at least 40% of all tractor trailers sold in California to be zero emission by 2035. For smaller trucks, including models like the Ford F-250, 55% of all sales would be zero emission by 2035. The standard is the toughest for delivery trucks and vans, with 75% of sales required to be zero emission by 2035.

California already has similar rules in place for passenger vehicle sales. But no one has yet imposed rules like these for work trucks, which unlike passenger vehicles are purchased with the intent of returning a profit.

At the last minute, the board also set a goal of making government fleets and last mile delivery trucks entirely electric five years earlier than previously envisioned, by 2035.


(More at link.)
Why in the world did you put that in red font? It's virtually unreadable if you're using ChiefsPlanet Dark. Argh.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:17 PM   #385
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I'm not surprised that Tesla fared poorly - though they are good about fixing things, they're well known for having lots of little issues. I'm more surprised at Dodge and Kia topping the list. That's...hard to believe.

We’ve got a 2019 Sorento that’s been fantastic


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Old 07-01-2020, 06:17 PM   #386
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What do we think the implications are of this from last week? Who's going to benefit?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/califor...and-van-sales/

California regulators approved new rules on Thursday that would force automakers to sell more electric work trucks and delivery vans, a first-of-its-kind rule aimed at helping the nation's most populous state clean up its worst-in-the-nation air quality.

The rules, which would not take effect until 2024, will require at least 40% of all tractor trailers sold in California to be zero emission by 2035. For smaller trucks, including models like the Ford F-250, 55% of all sales would be zero emission by 2035. The standard is the toughest for delivery trucks and vans, with 75% of sales required to be zero emission by 2035.

California already has similar rules in place for passenger vehicle sales. But no one has yet imposed rules like these for work trucks, which unlike passenger vehicles are purchased with the intent of returning a profit.

At the last minute, the board also set a goal of making government fleets and last mile delivery trucks entirely electric five years earlier than previously envisioned, by 2035.

(More at link.)
Sounds like California is going to lose all its truck sales.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:23 PM   #387
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Why in the world did you put that in red font? It's virtually unreadable if you're using ChiefsPlanet Dark. Argh.
To communicate that I didn't write it. It was the ethical thing to do. You should come to the light.

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Old 07-01-2020, 06:32 PM   #388
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The wife drove her 2006 Sorento until 4 months ago. Again, MO complaints. Just change the oil, do the maintenance, and don't drive like a wild person and most cars will last.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:40 PM   #389
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Sounds like California is going to lose all its truck sales.
Eh, maybe. IF they can get electric trucks worked out, they'll likely be very competitive. In an industry in which the bottom line rules, the cheap cost of electricity and low maintenance would be a huge bonus.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:56 PM   #390
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Yeah you really think electricity is going to stay cheap ? California already has brown outs in summer time. Or how bout when the wind starts blowing and they half to shut down so it doesn’t burn up? Oh yeah how we going to make all this cheap electricity? They don’t want nukes and coal is to dirty .I don’t get it windmills and solar panels ain’t going to cut it
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