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Old 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM  
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:37 AM   #376
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Also a good question to ask, I dunno this since I didn't follow the guy closely. What is Spags record for playing young players? Sutton seemed really averse to it..hopefully this guy isn't like that.
In the article I posted, which was the 2015 hiring article, he was planning to start two rookie safeties.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:37 AM   #377
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:38 AM   #378
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They were 7th with Houston and Ford both missing time.
Not bad, but they definitely weren't the best pass-rushing team. When you see a defense like Baltimore's, the difference is night and day. And they brought it vs everyone, while the Chiefs seemed to pad their stats vs poor lines/opponents. Then they go up against a really good Patriots line and can't sniff Brady.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:38 AM   #379
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So you want to play Jones at end or play them together in the middle?
Ooh. Together in the middle is sexy. I mean, you know.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:39 AM   #380
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I’m glad it’s a more experienced guy than Mike Smith. I hope Andy will emphasize to him that the defense needs to be aggressive. Don’t let the other team hold the ball for 70% of the game.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:39 AM   #381
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Rex Ryan is the guy who lobbied his team for Ragland. I still don't know why you're all in on this guy. He wants slow lbs, two gap space eaters at DL, and slow developing blitz schemes. All are very poorly suited for the modern nfl offense.
BB builds his defenses extremely similarly though. Belichick isn't a waterbug guy; he builds heavy LB corps and just disguises his coverages well enough to make up for it.

There are still ways to utilize guys like Hightower in a system so long as you build your system around those guys. You can't just have one of them out there and the rest of it built for speed.

I'm not saying it's my preferred course - but it's an approach you can win with and we may be reaching something of a 'moneyball' style tipping point with it. If the market on those kinds of players falls so far that they can be had for a fraction of what faster, more athletic LBs can be acquired for (in terms of $$ or draft capital) then perhaps that kind of zig while everyone else zags approach can work.

Now THAT would be risky as hell. But Belichick's defenses simply have zero team speed and he's still able to dial up some stuff that can be pretty effective at times. If you can find a market inefficiency there that helps you contain costs on your defense....well, it's a thought.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:41 AM   #382
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It's time to start over, the cornerstones of the past are aging and injury prone.
If they're going to change everything, yes. Rip the band-aid off and just release Houston, tag Ford and get what you can out of him in a trade and move forward.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:41 AM   #383
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:42 AM   #385
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BB builds his defenses extremely similarly though. Belichick isn't a waterbug guy; he builds heavy LB corps and just disguises his coverages well enough to make up for it.

There are still ways to utilize guys like Hightower in a system so long as you build your system around those guys. You can't just have one of them out there and the rest of it built for speed.

I'm not saying it's my preferred course - but it's an approach you can win with and we may be reaching something of a 'moneyball' style tipping point with it. If the market on those kinds of players falls so far that they can be had for a fraction of what faster, more athletic LBs can be acquired for (in terms of $$ or draft capital) then perhaps that kind of zig while everyone else zags approach can work.

Now THAT would be risky as hell. But Belichick's defenses simply have zero team speed and he's still able to dial up some stuff that can be pretty effective at times. If you can find a market inefficiency there that helps you contain costs on your defense....well, it's a thought.
Perhaps the most convoluted argument on behalf of Ragland that could ever be made. My compliments. LOL

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Old 01-23-2019, 11:42 AM   #386
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On the bright side in 2012 he was the DC for the Saints. They have the record for most yards allowed ever as a defense!!
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:43 AM   #387
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yeah, well, so Did Belichick as Cleveland's head coach.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:43 AM   #388
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On the bright side in 2012 he was the DC for the Saints. They have the record for most yards allowed ever as a defense!!
Has ties to Reid, though. They have mutual respect for each other. Perfect fit.
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I guess it's a good thing that he won't be one here then.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:43 AM   #390
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Here's the bright side post....
He's outstanding with defensive backs. No more DB's tripping over their dick figuring out where to be.

His scheme is actually somewhat on trend. Relies heavily on the front 4 to generate pressure. Lots of speed at lb.

Maybe pairing a smart guy with the offense guru who masterminded the spread could

His most recent D and maybe the best representation of him as a DC of today was the second years giants defense. Which was actually very good.

I have no doubt we'll be much better. Will we be above mediocre? He needs to prove that to me.
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