***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

You asked a leading question, to make a point about defunding police. That's political.

I asked who would enforce the mandates, nothing political......I`m sorry if it made you uncomfortable

[petegz28]

So we are now across the 1% mark for the amount of our population that has caught the virus.

So 1 out of every 100 people have now caught Covid if you go strictly by reported numbers

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I asked who would enforce the mandates, nothing political......I`m sorry if it made you uncomfortable

That question wasn't political outright. You wanted the answer I gave, however, to make a political point.

Again, please don't. Thanks.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

That question wasn't political outright. You wanted the answer I gave, however, to make a political point.

Again, please don't. Thanks.

I will ask what I wish to ask. If you dont like the question, you dont have to reply. It really is simple. I did not make it political, you did. I`m sorry if you keep finding political angles in everybody's replies or questions. That must be rough on you.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Such as the police......that many large city mayors are in favor of defunding? Interesting times

Bringing up defunding the police in a thread about something else is absolutely political.

Interesting that the people that are the most fervent about supporting the police are also the ones that seem the most opposed to their country having laws.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I will ask what I wish to ask. If you dont like the question, you dont have to reply. It really is simple. I did not make it political, you did. I`m sorry if you keep finding political angles in everybody's replies or questions. That must be rough on you.

If I had known that you asked that question in order to get the response which you wanted to make a political point, I wouldn't have answered.

So no, I didn't make it political. You did.

If you want to discuss defunding the police and how it might affect enforcing these closures, we have a whole subforum for that. I presume you know where it is.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by sedated

Bringing up defunding the police in a thread about something else is absolutely political.

Interesting that the people that are the most fervent about supporting the police are also the ones that seem the most opposed to their country having laws.

Don't talk about my freedumbz like that.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by sedated

Bringing up defunding the police in a thread about something else is absolutely political.

Interesting that the people that are the most fervent about supporting the police are also the ones that seem the most opposed to their country having laws.

Speaking of getting political......


I mean I was only responding to Dongers "non poltical Newsome mandate" post that apparently is not politcal but my question as to who would enforce it hurt some feelings......Not sure what your above post has to do with Covid but it doesnt bother me and I wouldnt think to ask you to "please stop" lol

moving on

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

That’s a good question. I had a positive swab in May but no symptoms. I’m inconclusive on antibodies 6 weeks later. Maybe it was a false positive?

I’ve never had a sinus infection in my life. I’ve also never completely lost my taste and smell. It’s incredibly weird. I was drinking hot sauce and couldn’t even tell.

False positives are quite rare, as I understand. Hope everything turns out ok.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good ****ing god, Pete. Are you suggesting that school administrators and teachers will just outright ignore those children with temperatures and sore throats?

Have you even given one second of thought to the idea that 76 MILLION students going back to school during a pandemic is a very, very bad idea?

Well his dumb ass thinks that kids can't spread it or some shit.


The school district Dirk was talking about had one student who wasn't around any adults that tested positive.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Such as the police......that many large city mayors are in favor of defunding? Interesting times

The lose their business license if they don't comply.

The world is a very strange and confusing place to you isn't it?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

The lose their business license if they don't comply.

The world is a very strange and confusing place to you isn't it?

The world, no.

However this Covid situation has brought out the best and the worst in many people I observe daily.

Are you feeling confused? Was there projection in your question to me or you just trying to insult?

[suzzer99]

You seem to assume the only means of enforcing a shut down order is to send in the cops, guns blazing - like the local govt doesn't have plenty of other less invasive measures at their disposal.

This takes a high level of ignorance as to how the world works imo, which combined with your recent performance spewing nonsense all over the thread, means maybe you should consider just sitting this one out and listen for a while. You're straying into Pete territory today.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

You seem to assume the only means of enforcing a shut down order is to send in the cops, guns blazing - like the local govt doesn't have plenty of other less invasive measures at their disposal.

This takes a high level of ignorance as to how the world works imo, which combined with your recent performance spewing nonsense all over the thread, means maybe you should consider just sitting this one out and listen for a while. You're straying into Pete territory today.

So you are just petulantly insulting and not projecting. Thats good then

[TLO]

Missouri hospital data is difficult to find, but it appears we've reached a number that is close to April/May numbers.

We haven't seen a spike locally - but it would be interesting to see where the rise is coming from.