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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:33 AM   #3856
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The Chiefs basically are a rebuilding at WR team.
Yea and SB contenders generally don't do that.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:33 AM   #3857
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I wouldn't say I'm worried per se, but I think most people would point to the WR group as being the team's weakness until proven otherwise.
Unproven, for sure.

A weakness? I dunno. With Mahomes at QB and Andy at HC.....seems like it should work out pretty well. I don't know how we can see it as less than last year and that worked out fine?
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:35 AM   #3858
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Yea and SB contenders generally don't do that.
They rebuilt at OL, were a contender

Rebuilt at WR, were a contender, won a SB.

Rebuilt the secondary, were a contender, won a SB.

I guess I'm not really getting the issue.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:43 AM   #3859
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Meh. We'll be fine. MVS and Toney have already proven to be able to step up and ball out when it's their time, and Moore and Rice both will grow into their respective roles.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:45 AM   #3860
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They rebuilt at OL, were a contender

Rebuilt at WR, were a contender, won a SB.

Rebuilt the secondary, were a contender, won a SB.

I guess I'm not really getting the issue.
Even those positional rebuilds were generally centered around 1 or 2 guys that were reliable enough to get through.

The rebuilt OL featured Joe Thuney who's probably the best guard in the league and OT's that weren't rookies even if you hated them.

The secondary featured a 1st round pick, a safety room with experience and Sneed.

Last year's WR room had JuJu to at least be a consistent presence for the most part.

I'm not saying the position will sink the team but the biggest thing it lacks are just a consistent presence. MVS has never been that, Toney can't stay on the field so then we are to a bunch of guys that just have never done it.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:46 AM   #3861
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Unproven, for sure.

A weakness? I dunno. With Mahomes at QB and Andy at HC.....seems like it should work out pretty well. I don't know how we can see it as less than last year and that worked out fine?
We're not going to fall off a cliff, but it's a very CP thing to be overly optimistic about draft picks.

We need someone who can move chains in critical situations like JuJu could. He wasn't completely healthy last year but you look at some of our close games, the SB, Texans game, Titans, later in the season against the Donks - those were his best games. A critical first down changes the outcome a lot of weeks in the NFL.

We don't really have anyone who can definitely fill that role, and we need to replace ~80 receptions and ~1000 yards. The main concern with the team this year might be how we're going to do that.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:47 AM   #3862
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Meh. We'll be fine. MVS and Toney have already proven to be able to step up and ball out when it's their time, and Moore and Rice both will grow into their respective roles.
MVS is MVS he'll have 1-3 games where he has a big game and then the rest of the games he'll be largely invisible with a catch here and there, that is his entire career.

Toney I'll believe he'll stay healthy when he does, talent is there but he's legit always hurt.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:48 AM   #3863
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We're not going to fall off a cliff, but it's a very CP thing to be overly optimistic about draft picks.

We need someone who can move chains in critical situations like JuJu could. He wasn't completely healthy last year but you look at some of our close games, the SB, Texans game, Titans, later in the season against the Donks - those were his best games. A critical first down changes the outcome a lot of weeks in the NFL.

We don't really have anyone who can definitely fill that role, and we need to replace ~80 receptions and ~1000 yards. The main concern with the team this year might be how we're going to do that.
Start praying that Skyy Moore is ready to be a somebody and Richie James is more than a punt returner.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:49 AM   #3864
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That's because usually you don't have nothing but young guys unless you are a rebuilding team.

I'm not worked up because he went somewhere where he doesn't matter.
Agreed. Would have been fun to have him and think about the possibilities but as long as he didn't go to a contender I'm ok with it.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:52 AM   #3865
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We're not going to fall off a cliff, but it's a very CP thing to be overly optimistic about draft picks.

We need someone who can move chains in critical situations like JuJu could. He wasn't completely healthy last year but you look at some of our close games, the SB, Texans game, Titans, later in the season against the Donks - those were his best games. A critical first down changes the outcome a lot of weeks in the NFL.

We don't really have anyone who can definitely fill that role, and we need to replace ~80 receptions and ~1000 yards. The main concern with the team this year might be how we're going to do that.
The combination of Moore and Rice will be more than sufficient in filling that role.
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Old 07-17-2023, 09:56 AM   #3866
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The combination of Moore and Rice will be more than sufficient in filling that role.
Do we actually believe Rashee Rice is going to see the field very much?
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We're not going to fall off a cliff, but it's a very CP thing to be overly optimistic about draft picks.

We need someone who can move chains in critical situations like JuJu could. He wasn't completely healthy last year but you look at some of our close games, the SB, Texans game, Titans, later in the season against the Donks - those were his best games. A critical first down changes the outcome a lot of weeks in the NFL.

We don't really have anyone who can definitely fill that role, and we need to replace ~80 receptions and ~1000 yards. The main concern with the team this year might be how we're going to do that.
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Do we actually believe Rashee Rice is going to see the field very much?
Yes?
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Old 07-17-2023, 10:00 AM   #3870
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Yes?
Well I hope so...
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