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Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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#3856 | |
DeadPunisher
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014
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Its a myth that he played at or near an MVP level while he was here. He won MVP by dinking and dunking ala Alex Smith. Should he have started the Denver playoff game? Yes. Was he some great QB while he was here? No. Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk |
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#3857 | |
World's Best Boss
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bronco Country
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#3858 | |
Banned!
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
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He's up there with Lin...never mind; not going to even type it. |
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Banned!
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
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#3860 |
DeadPunisher
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014
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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:
5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,) 2nd - 17.6 points/gm 3rd - 17.9 points/gm 7th - 19.4 points/gm 15th - 21.2 points/gm 24th - 26.3 points/gm ranked scoring defenses. His last two years were atrocious. So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game. 2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm 2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm 2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm 2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV. Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton. If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings. Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton. Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring. Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk |
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#3861 |
Champion Golfer Of The Year
Join Date: Aug 2001
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#3862 | |
Why so serious?
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chicago
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Isn’t it kinda obvious that defensive stats would look worse with a better QB/offensive system? |
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#3863 | |
DeadPunisher
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014
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If anything, the fact that Mahomes is our QB helps Spags and his stats, because when teams press they make mistakes, players try to do too much, etc. I hate Bob Sutton, and I think he should have retired after the loss to Tennessee in the playoffs. But, if Jones doesn't get called for roughing the passer for hitting Brady's shoulder pads, or Ford doesn't line up offsides, Sutton probably has a SB ring as a DC. If we win SB 53, Sutton returns, and we could have still won SB 54. My main point though, is that I don't understand the love that Spags gets, because he has not been any better than Sutton. The only difference is he played the Titans in the AFC Championship game instead of Brady. Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk |
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#3864 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2019
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#3865 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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I'll say this... be careful for what you wish for. If you want Spags gone, we could do worse. A looooot worse. Greg Robinsons are way more common than the good ones, and sometimes the coaches we think brilliant are just mediocre guys who need brilliant talent in order to not shit the bed. Put them even on last year's Chiefs defense with douches like Hitchens, business decision Badger, and Niemann, and you'd be begging for a coach like Spags. |
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#3866 | |
Inmem 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
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Hard to argue with a championship, another super bowl, and 4 AFC title games since he was hired. It was the right call |
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#3867 | |
Special Teams ACE!!!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
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Considering how quickly we wanted to rebuild the defense, a first time DC just wasn't in the cards, either. It would have been a big roll of the dice, and more than likely the guy we brought in wouldn't have the connections to the quality position coaches we brought in. Plus, at some point... I mean, the coach isn't the one strapping on the goddamn helmet. At some point as long as he's not a bumbling reerun, it's up to the players to just ****ing play. ChiefFanatic is kind of having his period over nothing. |
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#3868 | |
Inmem 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
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#3869 | |
Banned!
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
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#3870 | |
Suupraa Geniuuusss
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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And besides generating sacks, what else did that defense excel at? In the playoffs? Situationally, ever? Suck off stats if you want. The rest of us know what Sutton's defense was good for. |
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