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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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11-09-2023, 12:14 PM | #38416 |
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11-09-2023, 12:24 PM | #38417 |
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11-09-2023, 12:32 PM | #38418 |
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100% arbitrary. He's just doing his normal schtick and posting things he had no clue about, but they seem to support his argument. Since they support what he's saying, then he thinks they're correct.
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11-09-2023, 12:33 PM | #38419 | |
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11-09-2023, 12:38 PM | #38420 |
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11-09-2023, 12:43 PM | #38421 |
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11-09-2023, 12:45 PM | #38422 |
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11-09-2023, 01:05 PM | #38423 |
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There's a difference with Mahomes this year, versus last, and the year before that. I don't care what the stats say. I don't know why he's not as good. I assume it's because the WR's aren't getting any separation. I don't know what else it could be. He's still the best QB in the league and you wouldn't trade him for the world but there's no question, he's not as good as he has been.
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11-09-2023, 01:21 PM | #38424 | |
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No absolute disaster games yet (Titans, Bills). But it’s clear he’s not feelin’ it like he was last year. |
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11-09-2023, 01:32 PM | #38425 |
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That's never the conclusion anyone on this board would've reached from those graphs if ANY quarterback but Patrick Mahomes was the subject. And I mean at any TIME this board has existed. For any team.
Right, wrong or otherwise, NOBODY would've ever seen those figures and said "Man, those charts right there is a perfect barometer for the performance of the wide receivers..." Because in a vacuum that's simply not what that says. Look at Burrow and where he falls - do his receivers blow? Look at Stroud - are Nico Collins and Tank Dell THAT good? You're letting the name on the back of the jersey cloud your analysis. |
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11-09-2023, 01:44 PM | #38426 | |
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I am not saying Pat is blameless but he just didn't fall off the cliff. The guy that made or posted the chart has his opinions.
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11-09-2023, 01:48 PM | #38427 |
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Opening game of the season Mahomes had an ADOT of 9.6.
Been about 7.1 since. Game 1 went poorly, his receivers shit the bed in the 4th quarter, Mahomes has been unwilling to go downfield since. And it's just unwarranted. Mahomes has gotten almost dead-ass average performance from his receivers. His drop rate is 6.1%. And if my memory serves, that's exactly where we realized that rate tends to end up on the season for the overwhelming majority of receivers. Wilson's drop rate is 8.6% -- anyone weeping over his receivers? Stroud at 8.5, Goff at 7.8, Jackson at 6.2 But at some point "Mahomes doesn't trust his receivers" became more than a mere explanation - it became an excuse. He has to get over this shit. HE'S the chokepoint. The receivers aren't going to change - this is what we have. But HE'S the guy who's stopped throwing downfield despite his receivers actually having pretty average hands. He's the guy who's not throwing with anticipation. Because when Mac Jones - who absolutely has worse weapons than Patrick Mahomes has - has a better ADOT than you by a full HALF YARD - fellas, that's on the passer. That's not on the targets. |
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11-09-2023, 01:50 PM | #38428 |
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Because again, that's where this has to keep getting back to. He didn't just 'fall off a cliff' but he HAS reverted back to the 2021 version of Mahomes that looked for his security blankets and ignored everyone else. He's BEEN this guy. But when he was this guy 2 years ago he had 2 wubbies in Kelce and Hill. Now he doesn't. This isn't something we've never seen from Mahomes - we've just seen it when he had 2 Hall of Fame talents to cover for it. If your "Greatest Quarterback of All Time" needs two Hall of Fame pass-catchers to succeed - he....isn't. I believe he is. And that he doesn't need 2 HoF talents. He just needs to stop playing like a person that believes he does. |
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11-09-2023, 01:54 PM | #38430 |
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