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saphojunkie · 04-06-2017, 11:27 AM

**** the elite 8. Final Four or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

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**Buehler445** · 03-26-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

this one you should be. Villionova is one helluva team. Talent and clicking on all cylinders.

but, they showed they are vulnerable against TT. It was a close game until 5 minutes left. We are a much better team than TT.

TT is good. Damn good. They embarrassed KU at the Phog. Recency bias makes us forget all that but we were playing well at the time and they housed us at our place. The wheels started to come off when Evans went down but he was back, albeit not at full strength.

WVU IMO exposed more than TT. But that’s probably a bullet that only gets fired once against a team like that. I doubt they’d let it happen again.

**Buehler445** · 03-26-2018, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No, other teams have far more depth than KU and don’t play with 6 man rosters all season (which means their starters can go all out in the minutes they do play).

On the rotation front, did Lightfoot sleep with Selfs daughter or what? You’d think he’d at least see A minute when doke was in trouble.

**Buehler445** · 03-26-2018, 11:00 PM

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On the rotation front, did Lightfoot sleep with Selfs daughter or what? You’d think he’d at least see A minute when doke was in trouble.

Oofta. I looked at the numbers and Doke played 19, Silvio played 26, Garrett played 8. Everyone else was north of 40. Yikes.

cmh6476 · 03-26-2018, 11:03 PM

i don't believe self thought Lightfoot has the physicality to stop duke's frontcourt

**Buehler445** · 03-26-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

i don't believe self thought Lightfoot has the physicality to stop duke's frontcourt

Obviously, but I figured he’d go with a couple possession look with 2 bigs at the very least. I guess not.

**BigRedChief** · 03-27-2018, 12:36 AM

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On the rotation front, did Lightfoot sleep with Selfs daughter or what? You’d think he’d at least see A minute when doke was in trouble.

Right now, the team is better with DeSousa in the game instead of Lightfoot. That’s clear to anyone who has watched KU play this year.

lawrenceRaider · 03-27-2018, 04:56 AM

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Right now, the team is better with DeSousa in the game instead of Lightfoot. That’s clear to anyone who has watched KU play this year.

I hope Lightfoot red shirts next year. He's a talented kid, and needs time in the weight room and more development. We should be stacked with bigs in 2018/19.

farmerchief · 03-27-2018, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

i don't believe self thought Lightfoot has the physicality to stop duke's frontcourt

The last two games have required more "lead in the pants" in the paint, than what Mitch can provide, at this point.

smithandrew051 · 03-27-2018, 06:51 AM

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I hope Lightfoot red shirts next year. He's a talented kid, and needs time in the weight room and more development. We should be stacked with bigs in 2018/19.

I hope so too. I think he’ll benefit from being able to play a true stretch 4 someday. Having to play the 5 is a bad situation for him.

I see him long-term as a better Kevin Young, especially better as a shot blocker.

**Lzen** · 03-27-2018, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, missing open shots isn't exactly leaving points on the board.

Missing an open layup maybe.

You can say that about most teams, but the way this team hits 3s (and especially Svi), an open 3 is like a layup.

Lex Luthor · 03-27-2018, 07:12 AM

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Why ban him?

I have never understood this !

It's not like they haven't given him multiple chances over the years. Hootie has been banned, re-instated, banned, re-instated, banned, and re-instated more times than I can count.

He always finds a way to get himself banned again, usually because he gets triggered over something and then he starts spamming the board with endless hysterical rants about how badly he is being treated.

I'm pretty sure the mods created The Romper Room just so Hootie would have a playground where he could post his hysterical rants without spamming the entire board. Even then, he managed to get himself banned yet again.

I like him as a poster because he makes some interesting points and he's obviously well-informed. He has nobody to blame but himself, but if you try telling him that, and you'll get bombarded with endless diatribes about how everyone mistreats him and everybody lies about him.

**Lzen** · 03-27-2018, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Malik Newman Yay

Here's the issue with KCC and Kenpom and basically KCC (plus Prison Bitch) and advanced analytics in general :

KU is graded based off a rolling 37 game sample size and doesn't take into account Malik Newman has been the best player in the country for about 7 games. Before that, he was ... not this guy. Since the start of the Big 12 tournament, he is suddenly Kemba Walker. The guy is everything Andrew Wiggins and Ben McLemore weren't for KU when elimination games started. Wiggins' wanted nothing to do with the 'big moment', whereas Newman wants everyone to get the **** out of the way. Hell, Devonte Graham tried to throw the game away in overtime with that ridiculous pass to De'Souza (why? why? Why even try that?) and his missed front end of the 1 and 1.

Speaking of De'Souza - yep, again, Kenpom only has about a 7 game sample size of him, as well - so KU is graded on a curve that doesn't recognize the emergence of Malik Newman, superstar and De'Souza, 5 quality fouls, high energy guy who is a better defensive rebounder and presence than Azubuike.

Thus, the Kenpom ratings on KU are EXTREMELY flawed.

Even with all of that, according to the research, KU was 36% to win - people are acting like that is some sort of 'hail mary' - do any of you play poker? That's basically 7 8 offsuit against AK suited - who cares? It's barely anything. KU were 3 point dogs playing essentially in front of a home crowd - they outplayed Duke the entire game and almost lost entirely due to missed shots down the stretch.

The problem with KCC is this is the card he always plays - it's the, "well we have no shot based off the numbers so of course we're going to most likely lose, that's just common sense, because this, this and this" leaving him always open for the, "well yeah, we won because Bill Self is a great coach and KU hit shots!"

I'm right with him on LeBron, but he does it with LeBron every year - LeBron can never win because his team is never that good - but LeBron is so good that if they win, it's always because LeBron is the best. Prison Bitch does the exact opposite - he never makes a prediction, but waits for the 'crash and burn', so that he can blame Bill Self or Eric Hosmer or Alex Gordon on why everything crashed and burned. But hey, if they win it all, PB can just make fun of KCC because PB also never makes any predictions, just trolls on the side to rile everyone up.

Pretty dumb.

Either way - I thought Duke would probably win, but I figured if Malik kept playing like the best player in the tournament, KU could beat anybody.

Malik is 1 more big game against Nova from playing himself from a no-brainer back at KU next year to a top 20 pick - he might have already done it. Hopefully KU gets a National Championship out of this, but you can kiss Newman goodbye.

Newman is the most clutch KU player I've seen since Chalmers - and even Chalmers only made 1 shot. Newman is everything Andrew Wiggins wasn't. Wiggins had no heart. Newman is all heart. You gonna bet against KU with Newman playing like this? I'm not.

I agree with pretty much everything except the part about Chalmers. Not true. He was known for clutch shots, for being the guy that wanted to take them. There was no question on the team who was that guy.

smithandrew051 · 03-27-2018, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I agree with pretty much everything except the part about Chalmers. Not true. He was known for clutch shots, for being the guy that wanted to take them. There was no question on the team who was that guy.

Yeah I wouldn’t say Chalmers only hit one shot.

I remember him launching one from deep against USC in the non-con (I think it was OT too) to win that. Also, he hit a bunch of big shots against Texas in the Big 12 Championship game.

smithandrew051 · 03-27-2018, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Yeah I wouldn’t say Chalmers only hit one shot.

I remember him launching one from deep against USC in the non-con (I think it was OT too) to win that. Also, he hit a bunch of big shots against Texas in the Big 12 Championship game.

The USC shot was abt the end of regulation to seal it.

**Lzen** · 03-27-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

By what logic did us losing 7 games and them losing 8 prove your point that KUs talent is materially better than Dukes besides them having a ****ing assload more draft able players than we do when the draft is largely based on raw talent and measurables?

Didn't KU and Duke lose the same number of games going into the tourney?

Besides, teams with better talent lost all the time to inferior talent in the NCAA tournament. Talent isn't everything. Coaching, drive, experience, luck, etc. all determine how teams do in the tourney.

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