***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Stro39

I'm talking about population density: yes, the USA has big population but it also has a huge geographic area with large tracts of rural areas. This should have made this pandemic easier to deal with compared to a lot of other countries. However, extreme failures at your federal level, which apparently you don't accept as fact given you are a Trump supporter, has meant your country is in the situation it is in.

I'm in Australia and the Murdoch press over here is going do-lally over a couple hundred infections per day in one of our most populous states because the state is governed by a "left wing" government. Obviously if it were a right wing government their tune would be different. There are "rural" states in your country who would love to have those figures right now, but then that's the difference between having competent government compared to what you have over there, which you would never recognize given you have drunk the Trump kool-aid.

Compare the numbers from your country to places with actual population density like Korea and Japan: you're in a world of hurt basically because of people like you, who refuse to wear masks and follow, propagate and support the absolute tosh dished up by the Republicans. That's an absolute, non-political fact.

Wrong thread. We are not allowed to talk about the extremely obvious reason why we are doing so poorly with the pandemic in this thread.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Wrong thread. We are not allowed to talk about the extremely obvious reason why we are doing so poorly with the pandemic in this thread.

See ya, Dipshit!

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

See ya, Dipshit!

I don't know what slapfight you are trying to provoke, but I am not taking the bait.

[Donger]

With Texas continuing to break records for new coronavirus deaths and hospitalizations this week, Gov. Greg Abbott reiterated Friday afternoon that things will continue to get worse. And if people keep flouting his new statewide mask mandate, he said, the next step could be another economic lockdown.

“Things will get worse, and let me explain why,” he told KLBK TV in Lubbock. “The deaths that we’re seeing announced today and yesterday — which are now over 100 — those are people who likely contracted COVID-19 in late May.

“The worst is yet to come as we work our way through that massive increase in people testing positive.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Donger

68,000+ new cases.

Revised upward to 71,787

[Kiimo]

Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported https://t.co/KRHYPTMcVq

— CNN International (@cnni) July 11, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported https://t.co/KRHYPTMcVq

— CNN International (@cnni) July 11, 2020

Something doesn't add up here.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I once said we aren't going to have football and other countries are going to ban Americans from going to them and I was kicked out of a thread for saying it.

Which thread is that?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Donger

With Texas continuing to break records for new coronavirus deaths and hospitalizations this week, Gov. Greg Abbott reiterated Friday afternoon that things will continue to get worse. And if people keep flouting his new statewide mask mandate, he said, the next step could be another economic lockdown.

“Things will get worse, and let me explain why,” he told KLBK TV in Lubbock. “The deaths that we’re seeing announced today and yesterday — which are now over 100 — those are people who likely contracted COVID-19 in late May.

“The worst is yet to come as we work our way through that massive increase in people testing positive.”

Where's that idiot Texan who kept bragging about how Texas was opening and states on the east coast were still shut down now? Hiding like the little bitch that he is I bet.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

“The deaths that we’re seeing announced today and yesterday — which are now over 100 — those are people who likely contracted COVID-19 in late May.

May?

[Donger]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

CDC current best estimate:

R0 = 2.5
IFR = .65%

[Pants]

2.5.

That is not good at all. Goddammit.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Which thread is that?

No international games, May 4

[eDave]

Here's the updated chart on new AZ COVID cases over the last 3 months (with today's data). Fairly stable but deaths shot up a tad: LINK

Cases: The 7-day avg case chart has somewhat leveled due to PCR testing limits. The 7-day death avg has hit a new all time high. Likely: 150K cases by July 19, 3,000 deaths by July 28 (or sooner).

Testing: PCR Testing dropped roughly 1.2K tests since yesterday.

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage went up from 14% to 14.1% (based on 683K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for this week dropped from 21% to 20% (based on 23,914 tests, down from 21% last week).

Hospital Utilization: COVID Hospitalizations are up 1.5% (all time high). ICU beds for COVID patients went up 2.6% (Overall ICU bed usage went up from 89% to 90%). Ventilators in use for COVID went up nearly 1%. Intubations for Respiratory Distress stayed in triple digits (108).

Data Source: ADHS

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pants

2.5.

That is not good at all. Goddammit.

Yep. If there was only something that could be done to drop that...