***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by tk13

Not really. We have hundreds of millions of people. Even now we've yet to have 1% of people in this country officially test positive. Obviously the actual numbers are higher but it's not like the numbers appear inflated. If anything, the cases and deaths are undercounted. It's what happens when you have a really contagious disease and a country that isn't prepared for it. They're almost surely going to go back and figure out more deaths as we learn how the virus behaves. When it first started, people thought it was a lung thing and weren't watching for kidney failure or strokes, etc.

Are people counted as a positive test if they have had a cold or flu in the last 6 months? Or is this false information that someone has photoshopped as if it was from the CDC?

[WhawhaWhat]

https://t.co/zFn2cwKDn9

— Eliza Skinner (@elizaskinner) June 26, 2020

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Sounds like Texas hospitals are in a much worse situation than they have divulged:

https://abc13.com/health/patients-wa...lable/6310321/

You can only fudge the rates so much. When you start turning people away from the hospital who need an ICU bed, it's going to get out.

Unless you're Russia and can just throw anyone out the window who complains.

[Fish]

Morons will likely argue. But this is exactly how science works:

[kcxiv]

Found out today one of my buddies parents might have it. THey had some lady staying with her, that got it and she recently died from the covid now they are sick and were getting tested today! Good people, hopefully they get through this.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Are people counted as a positive test if they have had a cold or flu in the last 6 months? Or is this false information that someone has photoshopped as if it was from the CDC?

False information. You need to quit hanging out with the Freedummies....

[Stro39]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Really? REALLY? You think doing something in a country the size of an entire continent with the population exponentially higher than any of those other countries should be easier????

I'm talking about population density: yes, the USA has big population but it also has a huge geographic area with large tracts of rural areas. This should have made this pandemic easier to deal with compared to a lot of other countries. However, extreme failures at your federal level, which apparently you don't accept as fact given you are a Trump supporter, has meant your country is in the situation it is in.

I'm in Australia and the Murdoch press over here is going do-lally over a couple hundred infections per day in one of our most populous states because the state is governed by a "left wing" government. Obviously if it were a right wing government their tune would be different. There are "rural" states in your country who would love to have those figures right now, but then that's the difference between having competent government compared to what you have over there, which you would never recognize given you have drunk the Trump kool-aid.

Compare the numbers from your country to places with actual population density like Korea and Japan: you're in a world of hurt basically because of people like you, who refuse to wear masks and follow, propagate and support the absolute tosh dished up by the Republicans. That's an absolute, non-political fact.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Stro39

I'm talking about population density: yes, the USA has big population but it also has a huge geographic area with large tracts of rural areas. This should have made this pandemic easier to deal with compared to a lot of other countries. However, extreme failures at your federal level, which apparently you don't accept as fact given you are a Trump supporter, has meant your country is in the situation it is in.

I'm in Australia and the Murdoch press over here is going do-lally over a couple hundred infections per day in one of our most populous states because the state is governed by a "left wing" government. Obviously if it were a right wing government their tune would be different. There are "rural" states in your country who would love to have those figures right now, but then that's the difference between having competent government compared to what you have over there, which you would never recognize given you have drunk the Trump kool-aid.

Compare the numbers from your country to places with actual population density like Korea and Japan: you're in a world of hurt basically because of people like you, who refuse to wear masks and follow, propagate and support the absolute tosh dished up by the Republicans. That's an absolute, non-political fact.

Probabaly your last post in the thread, Karen.

[Stro39]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Probabaly your last post in the thread, Karen.

Probably, but at least its factual.

Edit: Ahh, the irony of a Republican supporter with that avatar.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Stro39

Probably, but at least its factual.

Edit: Ahh, the irony of a Republican supporter with that avatar.

You must have taken one to many hits to the head from a boomerang, Outback Jack. Here are a few factual things. You suck kangaroo dick and molest koalas. Now GTFO.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

So what states are counting "Probable" cases as true cases now?

Don't these numbers seem ridiculously inflated?

I love this mindset. I don't like the data that is coming out so the obvious answer is that thousands of doctors, thousands of hospital administrators, dozens of people working in each individual States heath department and all of the CDC are lying about the numbers.

Not that we may actually have a crisis. On our hands here.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Are people counted as a positive test if they have had a cold or flu in the last 6 months? Or is this false information that someone has photoshopped as if it was from the CDC?

Dude, quit hanging out in CPDC.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You must have taken one to many hits to the head from a boomerang, Outback Jack. Here are a few factual things. You suck kangaroo dick and molest koalas. Now GTFO.

He's been assisted to the door.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Are people counted as a positive test if they have had a cold or flu in the last 6 months? Or is this false information that someone has photoshopped as if it was from the CDC?

So is this statement based on anything at all or is it just a random shout out? It reminds me of something my aunt would randomly babble about (she's ina home with severe Alzheimer's)

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Stro39

Probably, but at least its factual.

Edit: Ahh, the irony of a Republican supporter with that avatar.

No it isn't. Namely because I don't "refuse to wear masks". But rant on, Chuck