***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Did I read that you've got a mask order now up there in that utopia you call St Joe?

Only in large stores for the moment.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Fish

School openings will be an interesting experiment...

Missouri Summer Camp Closes After 82 Kids and Staff Infected with Coronavirus

Kanakuk Kamps, a network of Christian sports camps in the state, reopened their camps to thousands of kids beginning in May. Kanakuk chose to reopen after Missouri leaders said that there was a risk in letting camps reopen, but that they were confident that the camps had made plans to stop any potential COVID-19 outbreaks from happening.

Per a report from NBC News, parents received an email last week from Rebecca Duncan, Kanakuk's health services director, advising them that their children may have been exposed.

"As your Kamper returns home, we recommend that you consider a 14-day self-quarantine for your child and monitor for symptoms of COVID-19," the email read according to the report.

This is what is going to happen when we open up schools you watch.

Our school district here just issued a press release TODAY saying they are suspending all extra curricular activities until further notice. Why? Because those stupid assess were allowing organized activities and weight training and now there is ****ing outbreak at the high school.

the damn NFL and NBA aren't allowing such things but these geniuses think it was ok. JFC

[tyecopeland]

My school district has made it through 4 days of school so far with no cases. We only have 6 active cases in the county though (we're small). Just read a note about a person in the county over that was just released after a 18 day stay in the hospital with covid. Was in ICU and had to have a ventilator. Is 1 of only 2 people who have been hospitalized in these 2 counties.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by alnorth

County Medical Examiner in Corpus Christi, Texas says their morgue can no longer receive additional bodies.

Asking for a FEMA morgue trailer.

— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) July 9, 2020

What a ****ing joke. Nueces County has had 37 deaths TOTAL from Covid.

Sensationalism at its finest. If your county morgue can't handle a surge of 37 excess deaths over a month or more span... you may have capacity issues to begin with.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

What a ****ing joke. Nueces County has had 37 deaths TOTAL from Covid.

Sensationalism at its finest. If your county morgue can't handle a surge of 37 excess deaths over a month or more span... you may have capacity issues to begin with.

Hmmm well they only had 37 murders for the entire year of 2019, 29 murders in 2018. 37 Covid deaths in a month on top of any other deaths would be a huge increase that NO morgue is ever going to be able to handle.

[Bearcat]

Sorry if Q, seems sciencey and stuff.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Monticore

True , but That doesn’t explain Europe or Asia.

I think part of it is that alot of of those countries acted faster. Tested, reacted and isolated much faster than we did.

Hell i think the nba suspended activities before i actually heard the president say much about Covid. We didn't give the sense of urgency until it was too late.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

I think part of it is that alot of of those countries acted faster. Tested, reacted and isolated much faster than we did.

Hell i think the nba suspended activities before i actually heard the president say much about Covid. We didn't give the sense of urgency until it was too late.

Dumb. Stupid dumb.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Dumb. Stupid dumb.

You're right: It was dumb on his part to call COVID-19 a "hoax" and to say that cases will soon be at zero.

Dumb, stupid and unconscionable.

[dlphg9]

Ive been telling my fiance since the kids were let put for COVID that they won't be going back until there is a vaccine. MO's DESE (Department of Education and Secondary Education) came out with guidelines to restart school and I don't see how itll work. 3 ft social distancing for one isn't going to really do anything. What needs to happen is kids in 4th grade and up need tp just do the online meetings and the smaller kids need to have limited school time and classes need to be much smaller. They could do some type of rotating schedule one group goes Tues/Thurs and the other group does Mon/Wed/Fri one week and then switch the next week. That way they can implement proper social distancing and with smaller classes the kids get more time with teachers.

If they don't do something like that then school is going to be all online by the end of the first month or so until we get a vaccine.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

If the lag in reported deaths is actually 4 to 6 weeks we are totally ****ed as a country...

If this round goes anything like the first round - 5% of confirmed cases today will = the number of deaths in 3-4 weeks.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Ive been telling my fiance since the kids were let put for COVID that they won't be going back until there is a vaccine. MO's DESE (Department of Education and Secondary Education) came out with guidelines to restart school and I don't see how itll work. 3 ft social distancing for one isn't going to really do anything. What needs to happen is kids in 4th grade and up need tp just do the online meetings and the smaller kids need to have limited school time and classes need to be much smaller. They could do some type of rotating schedule one group goes Tues/Thurs and the other group does Mon/Wed/Fri one week and then switch the next week. That way they can implement proper social distancing and with smaller classes the kids get more time with teachers.

If they don't do something like that then school is going to be all online by the end of the first month or so until we get a vaccine.

The every other day thing is a very likely possibility in Missouri. The state board of education or something came out with guidelines today or yesterday about how schools can do that and count attendance so it won't affect their reports. But the teacher wont be able to teleconference with the kids on their off day since they will still have a class so teaching is gonna stay really far off from normal pace.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Get the Shingrix vaccine although it isn’t a walk in the park either. It is a 2 shot series and a few hours after the shot, I couldn’t lift my arm over my head for a day. Also spent a day feeling like I had the flu with low fever and body aches. Still beats getting shingles though.

Yeah, that Shingrix vaccine was no fun.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Yeah, that Shingrix vaccine was no fun.

I was a little sore for a few days but didn't get it too bad.

My uncle got shingles. He said it was horrible.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I was a little sore for a few days but didn't get it too bad.

My uncle got shingles. He said it was horrible.

Getting it in the face can’t be fun.