***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What part of 99% of the country doesn't have Covid so **** your mask shit don't you get?


I like how you keep trying to have it both ways.


You don't care about people with medical conditions, we get it. You're a selfish person.

WOW I know you have been told by half the people on this site that you are.....really something in a negative manner. They are correct.
That number is not static, meaning that as the numbers continue to go up it will change. You know and all the stuff that the news is talking where it is 1 in 4 people that are being tested have Covid. Those are from places that are testing anyone who wants the testing meaning they are not symptomatic.
You don't know how many people actually have Covid. Your numbers are therefore wrong no matter how much you want to throw them out there and want to believe that you know so much.
People with medical conditions have options, stop acting like they don't.
Most people don't WANT to wear masks and follow safe practices because it is a minor inconvenience. Those are the ones being selfish while more and more businesses are closing for good effecting many many people.

[BigCatDaddy]

I open this thread and see Pete doing his best Stone Cold impression. Damn.

https://youtu.be/lurAemW4_YY

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

WOW I know you have been told by half the people on this site that you are.....really something in a negative manner. They are correct.
That number is not static, meaning that as the numbers continue to go up it will change. You know and all the stuff that the news is talking where it is 1 in 4 people that are being tested have Covid. Those are from places that are testing anyone who wants the testing meaning they are not symptomatic.
You don't know how many people actually have Covid. Your numbers are therefore wrong no matter how much you want to throw them out there and want to believe that you know so much.
People with medical conditions have options, stop acting like they don't.
Most people don't WANT to wear masks and follow safe practices because it is a minor inconvenience. Those are the ones being selfish while more and more businesses are closing for good effecting many many people.

Guess what, you have options too. Stop acting like you don't.....

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Guess what, you have options too. Stop acting like you don't.....

SMH

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[Chief Roundup]

Now there is bubonic plague in China.

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[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Now there is bubonic plague in China.

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There are an average of 7 cases per year in the US.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Now there is bubonic plague in China.

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There is always bubonic plague in China.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Half of those hospitalized in AZ are 20-44 years old

Lots of those hospitalization numbers are meaningless. If you come in for a knee surgery now they test you for Covid. If you test positive, congrats you are now a Covid hospitalization, even if you have no symptoms.



Death rate for those 40 and under close to zero.

Would they even do knee surgery on a covid positive patient at this point knowing What they know about clotting disorder or they might find a pneumonia on that patient even though they are asymptotic which seems to be a common finding so yes he might not have been there initially for Covid but he might still end up being treated for covid.

[dirk digler]

Long article so quoted just part of it.

Meet the 'long-haulers': A growing chorus of coronavirus patients have had symptoms for more than 100 days

https://www.businessinsider.com/long...-months-2020-7

The people who've had coronavirus symptoms for more than 100 days have a nickname for themselves: the long-haulers.

They've been dealing with the virus for much longer than most of their peers, and far longer than their doctors anticipated. As their illnesses persist without explanation, these patients turn to online support groups on Facebook, Reddit, and Slack, where they seek medical advice, swap war stories, and share updates on their health.

"We're all kind of diagnosing each other," Peggy Goroly, a 56-year-old from Long Island who belongs to a coronavirus support group on Facebook, told Business Insider. "You'll hear someone else say something and then you realize it's happening to you, too."

Goroly has had COVID-19 symptoms since March 5. When she initially got sick, she quickly developed a cough, fatigue, and shortness of breath. Her lips and eyelids turned purple. She tested positive twice: once in April then again in May.

Her third diagnostic test came back negative on May 21, but more than 100 days after her symptoms started, most of them haven't gone away.

"I try to spread the word around to other people that they should be very careful, this isn't a joke, and I'm still sick and people can't understand," Goroly said. "The only place where I get my recognition that it's okay and it's normal is the group."

Business Insider spoke to 17 coronavirus patients like Goroly who have been symptomatic for more than 100 days. Some have been in and out of the emergency room. Many are young — in their 20s and 30s. They're confused about why their symptoms have lasted for so long.

Most of these patients' infections have drastically upended their lives. They've dealt with chest pain, shortness of breath, nausea, heart palpitations, loss of taste and smell, and other prolonged symptoms for months. Some are facing unemployment or having to file for disability as they stare down the barrel of chronic illness. Others have struggled to care for their children or family members.

These cases could offer crucial information for those developing coronavirus treatments, formulating workplace policies, and issuing public-health guidelines. But for now, these long-haulers say, they've been relegated to the shadows of the pandemic.

But the stories given to Business Insider present a more harrowing picture than that.

For Goroly, a trip to the grocery store means spending the rest of the day on her couch, struggling to breathe. Other patients reported getting out-of-breath from walking their dogs, playing with their children, or going to the mailbox.

Some have barely left their beds in months.

"Just this past couple of weeks, I've ventured out into the living room area," Cheyenne Beyer, a 27-year-old living in Austin, Texas, told Business Insider. "The fact that it's been three months and I still don't know how it is going to progress or get better — it's just scary."

[BleedingRed]

To all those who fought tooth and nail vs hydroxy what’s it like to have the deaths of many in your hands?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

To all those who fought tooth and nail vs hydroxy what’s it like to have the deaths of many in your hands?

It doesn't sound like public skepticism stopped it's use. Medical Dr. skepticism did. Maybe I'm wrong.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by eDave

It doesn't sound like skepticism stopped it's use. Maybe I'm wrong.

It 100% did, governors banned it for **** sakes. Literally everyone who fought tooth and nail vs it being used has the deaths of thousands on their hands. Everyone knows why people fought for it not to be used and it’s reprehensible.

Truly disgusting

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

It doesn't sound like public skepticism stopped it's use. Medical Dr. skepticism did. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think it certainly limited its use to a large degree.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

To all those who fought tooth and nail vs hydroxy what’s it like to have the deaths of many in your hands?

Why do you think that it would have saved any lives, let alone thousands?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

To all those who fought tooth and nail vs hydroxy what’s it like to have the deaths of many in your hands?

It is still being trialed there is no definitive answer for it as of yet , yet you keep spiking the football at the 5 .

Of all the treatments being trialed why is HCQ the only one your are championing?