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07-06-2020, 11:33 AM | #37696 | |
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-Basically said it's becoming more obvious this is a vascular disease more than a respiratory disease. -There's a belief that the Italian strain of this virus has mutated into a more transmissible version of the virus, and is crowding out the Chinese strain. The mutation makes the spikes on the virus more capable of sticking. That's still up for debate though. He hopes that will make it less lethal but the jury is out on that. -Transmission appears way, way more likely indoors than outdoors. (Really not surprising) -That said, he says opening schools in the fall may be possible. So far the results in other countries are showing that kids are not transmitting this virus at high levels to adults. Gave the example of Denmark and Finland not seeing spikes from opening schools. Part of this may be that when the virus shows up in kids it seems to show up as inflammation in the body, as opposed to respiratory, maybe that's helping. Says we're still in the 2nd inning of the pandemic, and governors are starting to realize that the decisions you make today will see results a month down the line. |
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07-06-2020, 11:40 AM | #37697 |
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(CNN)An antibody cocktail is now beginning late-stage clinical trials to evaluate the drug's ability to prevent and treat coronavirus infection.
The biotechnology company Regeneron announced the late-stage clinical trials of REGN-COV2, its investigational double antibody cocktail for the treatment and prevention of Covid-19, in a news release on Monday. Specifically the release noted that a Phase 3 trial of the drug will assess its ability to prevent coronavirus infection among uninfected people who have had close contact to an infected person, such as a patient's housemate. The Phase 3 prevention trial is happening at around 100 sites and expected to include 2,000 patients across the United States, according to Regeneron. The drug also has moved into the Phase 2/3 portion of two trials testing its ability to treat hospitalized and non-hospitalized patients with Covid-19, according to Regeneron. These trials will involve 1,850 hospitalized patients and 1,050 non-hospitalized patients, and they are expected to be conducted at 150 sites in the United States, Brazil, Mexico and Chile. |
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07-06-2020, 11:43 AM | #37698 | |
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07-06-2020, 11:43 AM | #37699 | |
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You know how he did it for Sweden?! He claims the social distancing and hamdwashing created 90% mitigation! Therefore, to save all these lives there was no need to close down the economy, schools, and our lives when we could have gotten 90% of the benefits from voluntary social distancing. Fergusons attempts only proves how silly the lockdowns were. |
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07-06-2020, 11:43 AM | #37700 |
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07-06-2020, 11:46 AM | #37701 | |
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Who the hell would listen to him for information about COVID. |
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07-06-2020, 11:47 AM | #37702 |
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07-06-2020, 11:48 AM | #37703 | |
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Again: Do you acknowledge that the task force also estimated between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths with mitigation efforts? |
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07-06-2020, 12:19 PM | #37704 | |
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Maybe they didn’t employ Ferguson himself to ‘parameterise’ it, but then Ferguson ought to be reminded of one of the basic principles of all scientific work: that it must be possible for other scientists to reproduce your results. You shouldn’t need the original scientists to come and tweak its mathematical model for you. IHME model also predicted 90,000 dead in Sweden by now..also wrong. And I know NYS is using IHME model in their current forecasting still to create policy right here in the US. Do you acknowledge that the task force also estimated between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths with mitigation efforts? Sure, that's his excuse. See? My model was correct because you did so well! That's why Sweden proves your emperor has no clothes. Another issue with the Doomer crowd.. If Imperial model was correct and we only have 100,00+ deaths..nowhere close to 2 million, where is the media reporting on what a spectacular success the US has been? |
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07-06-2020, 12:36 PM | #37705 | |
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It's not an excuse by anyone. I can show you that estimate from mid-March. And it's been proven to be accurate, thankfully on the low-side. That's not disputable. As you've been shown, the per capita death rate in Sweden is much higher than ours. They simply aren't a good champion. As stated, the 1 to 2 million estimated was based on deaths with NO mitigation. We did mitigate, so we will never know if it was accurate or not. If your agenda is that we never should have locked down and mitigated, have at it. Thankfully, you're in the very small minority. |
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07-06-2020, 12:43 PM | #37706 | |
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They said best case Sweden does a lockdown and only 40,000 dead by now. Instead they did much better. They simply aren't a good champion. Sure, but the countries with the greatest deaths per population all locked down...Also, when are we going to start counting the people killed by lockdown? Lockdowns work if you do them BEFORE the virus gets there. If you already have widespread Corona they are pointless. |
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07-06-2020, 12:51 PM | #37707 | |
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07-06-2020, 12:52 PM | #37708 | |
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If you are just going to ignore things because of your agenda, you aren't a reasonable person. |
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07-06-2020, 12:54 PM | #37709 |
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Ding ding ding ding....we have a winner.
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07-06-2020, 12:59 PM | #37710 |
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