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Old 03-15-2024, 06:58 AM  
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Report: Sneed likely to stay with Chiefs and play the tag

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Old 03-19-2024, 08:45 AM   #361
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Still think chiefs are crazy for not locking him up for 3 years given the Cornerback room is essentially all on rookie deals over that time span
This, I don't really understand what the problem is. Not only is the cornerback room dirt cheap, but after Reid's contract is up next year you're probably looking at two low round rookie contracts starting at safety as well with Connor and Cook. So you have literally everyone in the entire secondary on rookie deals except Sneed. Then when McDuffie comes due, you can move on and pay him.

All that said, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. From an outsider's perspective it seems like a very easy problem to solve, but who knows what they have planned. Just have to trust them, they've more than earned it.
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:51 AM   #362
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17 times 3 is more than 19.8 times 1. If he gets a 3 year deal next year then that's more. If he gets injured at 28 years old, which is likely with his knee problem it's less. He's gambling..
Reports are he is aking to be the highest paid CB. Thats an average of 21 million a year. No way he drops to 17. That would barely get him in the top 10.

If your signing him you need to start 3 years for around 20 million. Tack on a fourth that is voidable which ups it to a 20+ or close to the 21. the fight will be about whether you caan void year 3 and what type of cap hit your looking at for year 3 and 4 if a team needs to walk away.

I just do not think the Chiefs are going down the above road. But maybe some other team might.
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:54 AM   #363
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The knee thing is overblown to me.

This was in a story last August.

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The alarming trend about this issue is that is has been going on for the past two months, which leads to concern that it will be a lingering problem throughout the season.
Sneed missed some TC practices and pre season games for some knee swelling. No surgical procedures have been needed. And as far as chicken little's fear in the above quote, Sneed was so hampered by this knee injury that "plagued him all season" that he was just the best corner in football and the only td he surrendered was a rabbit out of the anus of Josh Allen in the divisional round.

What was it, 92 targets 1td?

Next off, who knows Sneed's body better than him? Don't we think this guy is smart enough to take a contract he can get if he feels like is knee is suspect?

If he's willing to play on the tag, then he's not worried about his knee. If he's not worried, then nobody else should be either.

You'd see him refuse the tag, hold out for the guaranteed contract.

He got a nice break from TC and preseason due to some timely knee swelling and had the year of his life.
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:59 AM   #364
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What does refuse the tag mean? He doesn't have a choice.

He can not sign it, hold out and not get paid, not show up.

He may in fact do that. We don't know yet.
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:02 AM   #365
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Reports are he is aking to be the highest paid CB. Thats an average of 21 million a year. No way he drops to 17. That would barely get him in the top 10.

If your signing him you need to start 3 years for around 20 million. Tack on a fourth that is voidable which ups it to a 20+ or close to the 21. the fight will be about whether you caan void year 3 and what type of cap hit your looking at for year 3 and 4 if a team needs to walk away.

I just do not think the Chiefs are going down the above road. But maybe some other team might.
He can "ask" whatever he wants. The market says what he's worth and it's less than he's asking.
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:04 AM   #366
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What does refuse the tag mean? He doesn't have a choice.

He can not sign it, hold out and not get paid, not show up.

He may in fact do that. We don't know yet.
Caving to Jones last year may have set a bad precedent. We shall see.
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:07 AM   #367
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Caving to Jones last year may have set a bad precedent. We shall see.
Yeah. It may have led to back-to-back championships, but at what cost?!
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:08 AM   #368
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Yeah. It may have led to back-to-back championships, but at what cost?!
No, no it did not.
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:24 AM   #369
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He can "ask" whatever he wants. The market says what he's worth and it's less than he's asking.
Sure and most of the guys in the past play under the tag, then become a FA.

Few if any say gee my agents say they can get 20-21 per year and have a 1 year deal close to 20 ever say, you know lets just except 3 for 17. i'n fact I have a hard time ever recalling a player who had a tag on him agreeing to a contract average per year that is less then the tag number.

Agents do not like to admit they were that off base instead they will say "play this year, next year they will have a hard time tagging you again. A team will give us what we want, when there is no draft pick involved."
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:43 AM   #370
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Old 03-19-2024, 09:59 AM   #371
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He can "ask" whatever he wants. The market says what he's worth and it's less than he's asking.
After the debacle of the Indy contract coming soon, I'm going to have to take all "news" of this whole Sneed situation as suspect. Maybe he wants to be the highest paid, maybe its BS.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:03 AM   #372
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What does refuse the tag mean? He doesn't have a choice.

He can not sign it, hold out and not get paid, not show up.

He may in fact do that. We don't know yet.
And that 19.5 million isn't guaranteed UNTIL he signs the tag.

As far as I know, he hasn't. If he doesn't and July gets here, the Chiefs COULD (likely wouldn't, but could) rescind it. And he's now in the FA market post-draft and with teams that don't have a ton of money left to spend.

He's not gonna **** around and not sign the tag.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:14 AM   #373
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And that 19.5 million isn't guaranteed UNTIL he signs the tag.

As far as I know, he hasn't. If he doesn't and July gets here, the Chiefs COULD (likely wouldn't, but could) rescind it. And he's now in the FA market post-draft and with teams that don't have a ton of money left to spend.

He's not gonna **** around and not sign the tag.
Yeah, I'd guess he signs it and shows up.

Who knows though.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:30 AM   #374
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I really hope we don't end up doing the rescind thing. That eats ass. No positives really at this stage in the offseason.

If you gotta restructure Jawaan just bite that bullet.
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Old 03-19-2024, 12:32 PM   #375
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The knee thing is overblown to me.

This was in a story last August.



Sneed missed some TC practices and pre season games for some knee swelling. No surgical procedures have been needed. And as far as chicken little's fear in the above quote, Sneed was so hampered by this knee injury that "plagued him all season" that he was just the best corner in football and the only td he surrendered was a rabbit out of the anus of Josh Allen in the divisional round.

What was it, 92 targets 1td?

Next off, who knows Sneed's body better than him? Don't we think this guy is smart enough to take a contract he can get if he feels like is knee is suspect?

If he's willing to play on the tag, then he's not worried about his knee. If he's not worried, then nobody else should be either.

You'd see him refuse the tag, hold out for the guaranteed contract.

He got a nice break from TC and preseason due to some timely knee swelling and had the year of his life.
Complete BS. He was a 4th rd pick. Playing on the tag is all about $. He will make his current career earnings in only a few games.

Nothing to do with how he feels about his knee.
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