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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM  
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...yIbOTl70ncM4Zs

NFL odds: After Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

Frank Schwab 2 hrs ago

We can cease and desist with any debate about someone other than Patrick Mahomes being the NFL MVP favorite.

You’ll hear people argue that Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Alvin Kamara or anyone else should be “in the conversation,” but the only real talk is that the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback is the overwhelming favorite until further notice. Everyone else is vying for NFL offensive player of the year, though Mahomes should probably win that too.

Sunday night’s heroics, leading a game-winning drive over the Las Vegas Raiders everyone knew was coming, solidified Mahomes’ position. He’s the best player in football and he’s having a phenomenal year.

The odds at BetMGM reflect that.

Mahomes is -118 to win MVP at BetMGM. Next on the list is Wilson at +350. Aaron Rodgers is +550 and nobody else is less than 12-to-1.
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Old 12-15-2020, 06:44 AM   #361
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Zebra's have taken 4TD's and a couple of hundred yards off of Mahomes totals too.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:50 AM   #362
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Rodgers with Eric Bieniemy, Andy Reid as coaches and with Kelce, Hill, Watskins, Hardman would go on and win the Super Bowl in easy fashion, dont kid yourselves.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:53 AM   #363
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I'm able to enjoy the greatness of Mahomes without degrading the likes of Rodgers. I enjoy the way Rodgers plays. I wished he would be 5-7 years younger. A Super Bowl between these two greats would go down in history.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:57 AM   #364
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I'm able to enjoy the greatness of Mahomes without degrading the likes of Rodgers. I enjoy the way Rodgers plays. I wished he would be 5-7 years younger. A Super Bowl between these two greats would go down in history.
And it may this very year
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:11 AM   #365
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And it may this very year
I hope, but I dont trust the Packers defense, and games against Tampa and Saints wont be easy…
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:16 AM   #366
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I hope, but I dont trust the Packers defense, and games against Tampa and Saints wont be easy…
The Packers defense is definitely suspect.
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:47 AM   #367
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Rodgers with Eric Bieniemy, Andy Reid as coaches and with Kelce, Hill, Watskins, Hardman would go on and win the Super Bowl in easy fashion, dont kid yourselves.
A unicorn with EB, Reid, Kelce, Hill, Watkins, Hardman would go on and win the Super Bowl in easy fashion, don’t kid yourself.



It’s easy to make claims, to pad your position, with examples that are make believe.
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:54 AM   #368
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:08 AM   #369
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Please, Aaron Rodgers has a much better offensive line, Matt LaFleur (Great Offensive Playcaller) Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, Marques Valdez-Scantling, etc.

A Rodgers has plenty to work with.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:13 AM   #370
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I hope, but I dont trust the Packers defense, and games against Tampa and Saints wont be easy…
I can't see Tampa and a 43 year old Brady winning in GB in January. Same with a 40+ year old Brees and NO.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:14 AM   #371
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Please, Aaron Rodgers has a much better offensive line, Matt LaFleur (Great Offensive Playcaller) Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, Marques Valdez-Scantling, etc.

A Rodgers has plenty to work with.
No shit. I'm tired of this bullshit narrative that has emerged that Rodgers has 'nothing' to work with.

Yeah, only Adams (probably the best WR in the NFL this year), Jones (one of the best RB in the NFL), an elite O-Line (much better than Mahomes line) and a solid TE.

Again, not saying Mahomes doesn't have great weapons and a great situation, he does, but quit acting like Rodgers is propping up garbage over there. He wouldn't be doing shit this year or having an MVP caliber season if you take away some of those weapons. That's just reality.

Both QB's are in great situations and both are deserving of an MVP award. Only one can win it.

And like I said before, Rodgers can have the regular season MVP; Mahomes will 'settle' for the Super Bowl MVP instead.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:24 AM   #372
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I can't see Tampa and a 43 year old Brady winning in GB in January. Same with a 40+ year old Brees and NO.
Everytime the Packers faced a decent opponent defence, their offensive line struggled, they couldn't protect Rodgers and their offense crumbled. That's where Mahomes's ability to get out of trouble comes to play, something Rodgers due to his age/legs doesnt have anymore. He can't get away anymore.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:28 AM   #373
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Please, Aaron Rodgers has a much better offensive line, Matt LaFleur (Great Offensive Playcaller) Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, Marques Valdez-Scantling, etc.

A Rodgers has plenty to work with.
Again, noone is saying that Rodgers doesnt have weapons, but the issue is that there is a quality gap between KC and the Packers, LaFleur is in his 2nd year, doing a good job, but nothing more, their division is weak and the Packers struggled everytime they faced a strong defence/offensive opponent and could't protect Rodgers.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:29 AM   #374
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No shit. I'm tired of this bullshit narrative that has emerged that Rodgers has 'nothing' to work with.

Yeah, only Adams (probably the best WR in the NFL this year), Jones (one of the best RB in the NFL), an elite O-Line (much better than Mahomes line) and a solid TE.

Again, not saying Mahomes doesn't have great weapons and a great situation, he does, but quit acting like Rodgers is propping up garbage over there. He wouldn't be doing shit this year or having an MVP caliber season if you take away some of those weapons. That's just reality.

Both QB's are in great situations and both are deserving of an MVP award. Only one can win it.

And like I said before, Rodgers can have the regular season MVP; Mahomes will 'settle' for the Super Bowl MVP instead.
Mahomes will have plenty of MVP trophies before its all said and done.
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Old 12-15-2020, 09:29 AM   #375
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Holy Shit

Colin Cowherd just dropped a 3 minute piece on why Aaron Rodgers is the MVP

"Mahomes benefits from Andy and all the weapons around him blah blah blah"

these media folks are such bundle of stickss it's unreal
I have no idea when anyone would listen to the disingenuous drivel like Cowherd. He's on record saying he doesn't care about being right, he cares about being entertaining.

Which is awful. The worst. Same with Bayless, Stephen A Smith, anyone at ESPN trying to spew hot takes to make a name for themselves, and most radio ****leheads.
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