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Old 07-09-2020, 09:04 PM   #2
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Yeah, I'm sure people will be rushing over after his threats of holding out...
I will rush there. He has every right to hold out. He played out the contract that he signed and is now looking to make what he is due. He gave us a **** ton of production and got paid jack shit while doing it. Now people want to call him greedy because he wants to be paid what he is worth? He's supposed to give a discount to a team that gave up a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and $100+ million dollars for another D linemen from another team when he was trying to get paid and had just come off a 15.5 sack season?

Chris Jones may have taken a hometown deal, but then the Chiefs said "**** you" to Chris and went and got Frank Clark. I know part of the reason why there have been no contract talks is because they were working on Patrick Mahomes' contract, but Brett Veach very clearly isnt dumb and he's definitely not going to disrespect Chris with a low ball offer.

Now that Mahomes' contract is done and he gave the Chiefs cap flexibility for the next several years we will see if Chris Jones is in the future plans of the Chiefs. Im still holding out hope that he is and will be signed by the 15th. The Chiefs could have signed Pat anytime, but they did it with over a week left to get Chris signed. Hopefully the timing isn't just a coincidence.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:41 PM   #3
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I will rush there. He has every right to hold out. He played out the contract that he signed and is now looking to make what he is due. He gave us a **** ton of production and got paid jack shit while doing it. Now people want to call him greedy because he wants to be paid what he is worth? He's supposed to give a discount to a team that gave up a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and $100+ million dollars for another D linemen from another team when he was trying to get paid and had just come off a 15.5 sack season?

Chris Jones may have taken a hometown deal, but then the Chiefs said "**** you" to Chris and went and got Frank Clark. I know part of the reason why there have been no contract talks is because they were working on Patrick Mahomes' contract, but Brett Veach very clearly isnt dumb and he's definitely not going to disrespect Chris with a low ball offer.

Now that Mahomes' contract is done and he gave the Chiefs cap flexibility for the next several years we will see if Chris Jones is in the future plans of the Chiefs. Im still holding out hope that he is and will be signed by the 15th. The Chiefs could have signed Pat anytime, but they did it with over a week left to get Chris signed. Hopefully the timing isn't just a coincidence.
I'd be there as well if I could. I'd drive the 1500 miles to be there, if I hadn't used up most of my vaca time going fishing. CJ had himself a good season and a really good post-season and was a big part of the Chiefs winning their 2nd SB. He should get paid, and I really hope his payday comes from the Chiefs.
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:23 PM   #4
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FYI Jones also said he will have the Lombardi with him at the autograph signing ��
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:56 AM   #5
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FYI Jones also said he will have the Lombardi with him at the autograph signing ��
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Old 07-10-2020, 01:07 AM   #6
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Prediction: Jones is just hoping the Chiefs blink. An hour before the trade deadline he'll settle for something reasonable. Probably a 4 year deal that the Chiefs can exit after two with some pain, and 3 with very little pain.
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Old 07-10-2020, 01:45 AM   #7
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Prediction: Jones is just hoping the Chiefs blink. An hour before the trade deadline he'll settle for something reasonable. Probably a 4 year deal that the Chiefs can exit after two with some pain, and 3 with very little pain.
Jones will not sign for less than Frank Clark($20.8 mil/year) or Deforest Buckner($21 mil/year). I bet he wants $21.5 mil/yr and has no intentions of signing for less than that. It's the way contracts work for the elite players. The next guy gets paid a little more than the one that was paid before him. If the Chiefs don't want to pay him that much then Jones will go to a team that will and if he hits FA I can guarantee almost the entire league will be trying to sign him. Hes not gonna take some low ball offer after we told him to **** off and gave Frank Clark the contract he was asking for.
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:21 AM   #8
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Jones will not sign for less than Frank Clark($20.8 mil/year) or Deforest Buckner($21 mil/year). I bet he wants $21.5 mil/yr and has no intentions of signing for less than that. It's the way contracts work for the elite players. The next guy gets paid a little more than the one that was paid before him. If the Chiefs don't want to pay him that much then Jones will go to a team that will and if he hits FA I can guarantee almost the entire league will be trying to sign him. Hes not gonna take some low ball offer after we told him to **** off and gave Frank Clark the contract he was asking for.
He won’t hit free agency. He signs here or he’s traded to a team that signs him.
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Old 07-10-2020, 10:25 AM   #9
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Jones will not sign for less than Frank Clark($20.8 mil/year) or Deforest Buckner($21 mil/year). I bet he wants $21.5 mil/yr and has no intentions of signing for less than that. It's the way contracts work for the elite players. The next guy gets paid a little more than the one that was paid before him. If the Chiefs don't want to pay him that much then Jones will go to a team that will and if he hits FA I can guarantee almost the entire league will be trying to sign him. Hes not gonna take some low ball offer after we told him to **** off and gave Frank Clark the contract he was asking for.
You keep mentioning low ball offers , I am quite sure the Chiefs aren’t trying to low ball him.And who said anything about a home town discount besides you?
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:25 AM   #10
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You keep mentioning low ball offers , I am quite sure the Chiefs aren’t trying to low ball him.And who said anything about a home town discount besides you?
Ive never said the Chiefs are trying to lowball him. I actually think the Chiefs and Jones haven't been talking because the Chiefs know what it takes and don't want to disrespect him by lowballing him, but they didn't know exactly how Pats contract would go I said he wont sign a lowball offer, which in CJ's mind anything less than Frank Clark's contract is a lowball offer, in response to this

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Prediction: Jones is just hoping the Chiefs blink. An hour before the trade deadline he'll settle for something reasonable. Probably a 4 year deal that the Chiefs can exit after two with some pain, and 3 with very little pain.
Unless im taking it wrong, "He'll settle for something reasonable" seems like a jab at CJ and means he should take less than hes worth. I don't have any insider info, but I think Jones is wanting FC's contract or maybe just a little more and that seems very reasonable to me.

You have to be joking with the hometown discount thing. This thread alone is littered with people saying he should take less to stay and turn those millions into titles! **** that. Maybe they should have given him an extension last year before they got Frank and we would have gotten him for a little less. Probably could have gotten him for $18.5-$19mil/year instead of $21 mil/year.
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Old 07-10-2020, 12:31 PM   #11
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Ive never said the Chiefs are trying to lowball him. I actually think the Chiefs and Jones haven't been talking because the Chiefs know what it takes and don't want to disrespect him by lowballing him, but they didn't know exactly how Pats contract would go I said he wont sign a lowball offer, which in CJ's mind anything less than Frank Clark's contract is a lowball offer, in response to this



Unless im taking it wrong, "He'll settle for something reasonable" seems like a jab at CJ and means he should take less than hes worth. I don't have any insider info, but I think Jones is wanting FC's contract or maybe just a little more and that seems very reasonable to me.

You have to be joking with the hometown discount thing. This thread alone is littered with people saying he should take less to stay and turn those millions into titles! **** that. Maybe they should have given him an extension last year before they got Frank and we would have gotten him for a little less. Probably could have gotten him for $18.5-$19mil/year instead of $21 mil/year.
Personally I’m glad we traded for Frank and won a Super Bowl.
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Old 07-10-2020, 03:50 PM   #12
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Ive never said the Chiefs are trying to lowball him. I actually think the Chiefs and Jones haven't been talking because the Chiefs know what it takes and don't want to disrespect him by lowballing him, but they didn't know exactly how Pats contract would go I said he wont sign a lowball offer, which in CJ's mind anything less than Frank Clark's contract is a lowball offer, in response to this



Unless im taking it wrong, "He'll settle for something reasonable" seems like a jab at CJ and means he should take less than hes worth. I don't have any insider info, but I think Jones is wanting FC's contract or maybe just a little more and that seems very reasonable to me.

You have to be joking with the hometown discount thing. This thread alone is littered with people saying he should take less to stay and turn those millions into titles! **** that. Maybe they should have given him an extension last year before they got Frank and we would have gotten him for a little less. Probably could have gotten him for $18.5-$19mil/year instead of $21 mil/year.
If they had extended Jones before last season he almost certainly would have counted more against the cap than he did. That might have precluded them from adding someone like Breeland, and their cap would be a LOT less flexible now.
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Old 07-14-2020, 11:54 AM   #13
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Jones will not sign for less than Frank Clark($20.8 mil/year) or Deforest Buckner($21 mil/year). I bet he wants $21.5 mil/yr and has no intentions of signing for less than that. It's the way contracts work for the elite players. The next guy gets paid a little more than the one that was paid before him. If the Chiefs don't want to pay him that much then Jones will go to a team that will and if he hits FA I can guarantee almost the entire league will be trying to sign him. Hes not gonna take some low ball offer after we told him to **** off and gave Frank Clark the contract he was asking for.
God damn im smart
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:01 PM   #14
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God damn im smart
That's why I was so ambivalent this whole time.

Look - the market was set. Buckner set it. The Chiefs were gonna have to give him a bit more than Buckner got to get a deal done.

Either they would or they wouldn't but there wasn't gonna be a lot of confusion involved here. Everyone knew what it would cost and it was just a question of priority. If the Chiefs moved on, I'd have been confident that they had a plan that would've worked out fine as well.

Sign him, don't sign him - the Chiefs were gonna be okay. But when it gets down to it, sports are entertainment and I like rooting for dudes I like. And I like Chris Jones.

So I'm hopeful he stays healthy, plays up to his deal and I can CONTINUE to like Chris Jones. It's fun to root for a player rather than bemoan his cap figure when he underperforms.
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Old 07-10-2020, 01:26 PM   #15
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