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Yeah I get injuries, but injuries derail promising careers all the time. He had a career 8.3 BWAR and his career OPS was .784. I just don't get the absolute obsession older dudes have with the guy. Is it because he had a few spectacular highlights?
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My work speaks for itself!!!
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
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The guy did things that mere mortals had never done (athletically) on the field before. Sure, if you want to only look at stats, go for it. Sorry - Bo is a god among mortals.....don't care about the stats. Go do some research and learn about some of the things he was doing in high school and college (and subsequently on the MLB and NFL field). |
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#366 | |
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Professional athletes all do amazing things in high school and college. He's a god among mortals, but couldn't manage to stay healthy and his best season was 3.6 WAR. |
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#367 |
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Massey dong today...the dude has power to spare..he needs to break out
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
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I'd rather pay to see Bo for what he might do, than Trout for what he does. |
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#369 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Red state
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142 OPS+ in his age 27 season before the hip injury. Just imagine if he committed to baseball full-time as a college amateur and a pro. He's splitting time and he's still borderline great at age 27. |
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#370 |
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Former Royal Aroldis Chapman
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Join Date: Jan 2022
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I was lucky enough to be in attendance at then Royals Stadium when he finally hit his first major league homer. He didn't even really get all of it, it just kept carrying and carrying, and ended up becoming the longest home run ever hit in the ballpark to that time at an estimated 475 feet to the deepest part of left field landing in the grass a few feet away from the outer fence. He was just the force of nature. An unbridled mustang of almost supernatural athletic ability. Dude was 6'1", 225 lbs of pure lean muscle, never spent a day in the gym, and could run the 40 in under 4.2. The stories from his youth and time at Auburn are like something from Paul Bunyan. Football was easy for him. It was the obvious choice, and if Tampa hadn't done him dirty, we probably never see him suit up in a Royals uniform, and if he'd remained healthy, I have no doubt in my mind, he'd have a bust in Canton right now. But baseball was a different animal, and it was something he had to work at. And I won't sugarcoat it, his first couple years in the majors were pretty rough. There was controversy about where he'd play in the outfield, with an aging, but prideful and still capable Willie Wilson patrolling CF. But mostly, he was just soooo raw. He was a strikeout king who often looked horrrrrrrible at the plate, and his outfield play was not great. He often ran bad routes to the ball, and would overthrow the cutoff man all. the. time. He was always trying to do way too much on every play to try to be the hero, when he really needed to slow things down and let the game come to him. He started to do that, and come into his own in 1989. If he'd committed to baseball out of high school, and remained healthy, I think there's a very good chance he would have been a perennial all-star in the majors. Maybe not a HOFer, but with his power, I could see him being a 400+ homer guy. Health was always a concern because he just played balls deep on every play. Christ, the guy was so strong, he pulled his upper body and torso away from his hip when that mother****er Kevin Walker tackled him and Bo kept going. But the worst thing, was that his hip injury was misdiagnosed until it was too late, and he'd developed vascular necrosis of the joint. He's just the ultimate "what if" story of my generation, and while he was never THE best player, he was absolutely THE story whenever he was on the field because you just never knew when you were going to see something you'd never seen before. Sorry to be long-winded, I could honestly go on and on about the guy. He was must-watch tv, and for a time, was probably the biggest star in all of sports. |
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Keep in mind, the guy had very little professional training in the game. Dude was a unicorn. Had he played baseball with the same training he had in football throughout his life and not been injured in that playoff game, he would have had a great career. And he did the one thing that all the huge baseball superstars have done through the decades. The man put asses in the seats. People didn’t go take a leak when guys like Reggie Jackson, or Willie Mays or Mantle or prime Albert Pujols were due up in that half of the inning. Same with Bo Jackson. Yea, any of the above players may strike out, but you didn’t want to miss a a titanic home run or a screaming double down the line. That kind of stardom doesn’t show up in a box score. Quote:
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#373 |
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Join Date: Aug 2019
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The Royals Hall of Fame is not Cooperstown. There are several players in there who don't pass the stat test to be worthy. Bo Jackson should absolutely be in there with them.
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#374 | |
My work speaks for itself!!!
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
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Not getting wrapped up in WAR. With that logic, Mahomes was the 8th best QB in the league last year (QBR). As you and others have put it, you were always witnessing something that other mortal players simply could not do. |
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#375 |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
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Brett and Gubicza said Bo's biggest problem was strikeouts. Struck out way too much and didn't hit for average but said both would have been corrected if he was committed to baseball.
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