***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Many Parents will be like "the **** they aren't!"

Exactly. Keeping the kids at home is either going to wreck their ability to work, or there are going to be a lot of umsafe kids at home who won't be able to stay on task with schoolwork.

[Donger]

Fauci talking about the swine virus (G4) which has been identified in, you guessed it...

China

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Exactly. Keeping the kids at home is either going to wreck their ability to work, or there are going to be a lot of umsafe kids at home who won't be able to stay on task with schoolwork.

She cancels school again and I think you are going to see a huge backlash. Considering there have been tons of studies showing that closing schools did very little to help anything and we are nothing like NY or AZ.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

I think Gov. Kelly issued this mask requirement as a hail Mary so we can get the kids back to school. If kids can't go to school, many parents are absolutely SOL.

That is what I am hearing as well. At this point I think it is a lost cause but everyone I talked to thinks it is a hail mary as well.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We start in school summer school Monday. Now go kick your poodles and scream at the sky.

Good for you.

As stated one million times in this thread, some places are doing fine with this and others are doing poorly. Learn from the places this is spiking and don’t be afraid to change course before it happens in your area. I hope many parts of this country, those that correctly opened in phases, continue having success while their economy stays open. Dipshit States like AZ showed you what not to do.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

That is what I am hearing as well. At this point I think it is a lost cause but everyone I talked to thinks it is a hail mary as well.

I have not heard that at all and I don't see any numbers justifying shutting down school. Let's put it this way...if you're going to allow mobs of people to run the streets you are going to have a hell of a time canceling school. I don't think people quite understand the domino effect of that scenario.

[lewdog]

AZ hospitals coming up with guidelines for who gets care if it comes to that. Life expectancy post treatment, current age and other medical conditions present will be used by doctors to decide who gets critical care and who doesn’t.

[loochy]

I love Rand Paul...just an FYI

Data backed questions. He came prepared.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I have not heard that at all and I don't see any numbers justifying shutting down school. Let's put it this way...if you're going to allow mobs of people to run the streets you are going to have a hell of a time canceling school. I don't think people quite understand the domino effect of that scenario.

It's pretty easy to cancel school. Tweet out Schools cancelled corona virus. Done.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

It's pretty easy to cancel school. Tweet out Schools cancelled corona virus. Done.

Your Wife hits you a lot, doesn't she?

[digger]

Cushing Memorial Hospital to close...


https://www.leavenworthtimes.com/new...-close-in-fall


Saint Luke’s Cushing Hospital in Leavenworth will close Oct. 1, according to a news release from Saint Luke’s Health System.
Hospital officials are citing the financial impact of the COVID-19 pandemic as the reason for the closure.
Approximately 70 employees may be impacted by this decision, but all are eligible to apply for other opportunities within Saint Luke’s Health System.
Although the hospital will close, Saint Luke’s Primary Care–Cushing will remain open and accessible to patients.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by loochy

I love Rand Paul...just an FYI

Data backed questions. He came prepared.

I'm listening. I take it that his data didn't include that the countries he's talking about opened up after seeing sustained decline in cases.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by lewdog

AZ hospitals coming up with guidelines for who gets care if it comes to that. Life expectancy post treatment, current age and other medical conditions present will be used by doctors to decide who gets critical care and who doesn’t.

Arizona has a fairly old average population doesn't it?

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Your Wife hits you a lot, doesn't she?

God I wish I had a wife that hit me. I guess it is the st joe in me that loves waking up in a trailer park with some girl holding a broken bottle of natty ice to my juggular saying that if I won't marry her no one will.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by digger

Cushing Memorial Hospital to close...


https://www.leavenworthtimes.com/new...-close-in-fall


Saint Luke’s Cushing Hospital in Leavenworth will close Oct. 1, according to a news release from Saint Luke’s Health System.
Hospital officials are citing the financial impact of the COVID-19 pandemic as the reason for the closure.
Approximately 70 employees may be impacted by this decision, but all are eligible to apply for other opportunities within Saint Luke’s Health System.
Although the hospital will close, Saint Luke’s Primary Care–Cushing will remain open and accessible to patients.

Oh. They're not overrun, exceeding capacity, with dead people lining the halls?