***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Just saw where St Joe is going to be considering a mask mandate on Thursday.

Starting to feel a bit like a 2 year old. Being told where I can and can't go. What I must or must not wear. Where I can and cannot sit or stand.

Definitely frustrating.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

What does closing at 8pm accomplish exactly?

I guess it gives them time to clean?

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Deaths plummet and mask requirements increase. Odd. I have never been so happy to live where I do. Moving to KS or near KC will never happen after the way they handled this.

Outside of long-term care centers, we have had 13 deaths from the virus in Johnson County. That is poor management?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I was trying to listen and work.

I can’t find anything official yet?

Just checked AZ Central, it's official.

Arizona Gov. Ducey orders bars, gyms and theaters to close at 8 p.m. tonight; large gatherings restricted, school start delayed
Maria Polletta
Arizona Republic


Facing mounting pressure to respond to Arizona's ballooning COVID-19 numbers, Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday announced he would again shut down bars, gyms and theaters in Arizona.

His forthcoming executive order, which also will cover water parks and tubing, is expected to take effect at 8 p.m. It will not affect churches or restaurants.

"I think we saw the photos and videos of some of the things that were happening around our state this weekend (at bars and clubs), and the result of that (type of activity) has been an increase in the spread," the Republican leader said at an afternoon briefing.

"With this targeted approach, we know that we can pump the brakes."

Ducey said the state's "aspirational goal" was to have the COVID-19 situation sufficiently under control to allow those establishments to reopen in 30 days.

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey puts a face covering back on after speaking about the latest coronavirus data at a news conference on June 25, 2020, in Phoenix.

The governor also announced limits on large gatherings, saying those involving 50 or more people would be prohibited. And he said the first day of in-person instruction for K-12 schools would be delayed until at least Aug. 17.

Arizona has confirmed more than 74,000 cases of COVID-19 to date, with more than 3,000 new cases reported on five of the past seven days. As of Sunday, 84% of current inpatient beds and 88% of ICU beds were in use for COVID-19 and other patients.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

What does closing at 8pm accomplish exactly?

They close tonight at 8:00pm for 30 days.

[eDave]

Shocking news...

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Donger

They close tonight at 8:00pm for 30 days.

Ah. I totally misrepresented that.

[Pablo]

Good thing Rona doesn't go to church in AZ.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

What does closing at 8pm accomplish exactly?

My guess is that they assume people who are drunk off their asses aren't very good at social distancing.

Minnesota has pinpointed bars as the source of hundreds of infections , which lends some credence to the theory.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Good thing Rona doesn't go to church in AZ.

Goddamn right it doesn't. We tell it we're protesting.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by eDave

Ah. I totally misrepresented that.

Wait, so are they closed for 30 days or closing early for 30 days?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Wait, so are they closed for 30 days or closing early for 30 days?

The former:

PHOENIX — With viral outbreaks continuing, Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday put off the start of school, closed bars, movie theaters and gyms, and issued new restrictions on swimming pools.

The closures go into effect today, Monday, June 29, at 8 p.m.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by eDave

And movie theaters. All to close at 8:00pm for 30 days.

Originally Posted by Donger

They close tonight at 8:00pm for 30 days.

Wouldn't that have been better phrased "all to close for 30 days starting at 8 PM today"

[Donger]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Wouldn't that have been better phrased "all too close for 30 days starting at 8 PM today"

Don't stand to close to me...

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My guess is that they assume people who are drunk off their asses aren't very good at social distancing.

Minnesota has pinpointed bars as the source of hundreds of infections , which lends some credence to the theory.

This isn't surprising in the least. Letting them open back up was a bad, bad idea.