***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

So they reached herd immunity in two months.

Possibly. If they were indeed having 100000 infections per day like the new info seems to show, it took a high toll to get there

[cdcox]

Public health practices in NYC now are very different than what were in place in early March. Current health practices in NYC now are among the most effective in the country especially considering the challenging conditions with respect to population density.

Those looking down their nose at NYC be double finger wagging at locations that failed.to learn the lessons from NYC.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Possibly. If they were indeed having 100000 infections per day like the new info seems to show, it took a high toll to get there

The most recent antibody test had 13% positive statewide.

[KCUnited]

3x more deaths/1M pop than IL. Show us your ways NY.

[POND_OF_RED]

It’s so crazy how many people still fear going out in public with all of the information we have now. If you don’t know how to protect yourself from the virus at this point, then maybe it’s just best for Darwin to take you out so we can advance more as a species.

The hospital pharmacy I worked at this past week is out of rubber gloves to give to patients (like most of the country) One of the patients complained for about 5 minutes about how unsafe this is during a pandemic to not have any rubber gloves. It was so great to hear her go completely silent when the pharmacist reminded her that washing your hands is still a possibility and there are signs at pretty much every sink in the country explaining how to do so if she forgot how.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

3x more deaths/1M pop than IL. Show us your ways NY.

NYC also has almost 3 times the population density of Chicago, so it tracks.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

It’s so crazy how many people still fear going out in public with all of the information we have now. If you don’t know how to protect yourself from the virus at this point, then maybe it’s just best for Darwin to take you out so we can advance more as a species.

The hospital pharmacy I worked at this past week is out of rubber gloves to give to patients (like most of the country) One of the patients complained for about 5 minutes about how unsafe this is during a pandemic to not have any rubber gloves. It was so great to hear her go completely silent when the pharmacist reminded her that washing your hands is still a possibility and there are signs at pretty much every sink in the country explaining how to do so if she forgot how.

People are so god damn stupid. Most people shouldn't even be using gloves since they clearly have no idea how to properly use them. They act like gloves are some sort of virus killer. I see people wearing gloves in the store and after they are done grabbing things they touch their phones or their faces with those same gloves. Most people are too god damn stupid to use gloves properly.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

NYC also has almost 3 times the population density of Chicago, so it tracks.

Sure, if you're being liberal with almost

[dirk digler]

Looking at cases, the highest NY got was 11,571. Today Florida is reporting 10,682. Florida has got a big problem.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Looking at cases, the highest NY got was 11,571. Today Florida is reporting 10,682. Florida has got a big problem.

NY still has almost 300,000 more cases than FL. I understand there are more people but just sayin....

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NY still has almost 300,000 more cases than FL. I understand there are more people but just sayin....

True but if they continue on this pace it won't take long especially since there is zero chance they lock down like NY did. Let's all pray that in a month we don't see the same massive deaths like NY had either.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

True but if they continue on this pace it won't take long especially since there is zero chance they lock down like NY did. Let's all pray that in a month we don't see the same massive deaths like NY had either.

At least to this point we aren't seeing the deaths. Now FL notoriously has an older population so yeah, lets hope the death count continues its downtrend and we see a deviation between cases and deaths.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NY still has almost 300,000 more cases than FL. I understand there are more people but just sayin....

What did NY look like in mid-late March though just before shit got really bad?

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

What did NY look like in mid-late March though just before shit got really bad?

Nothing like anything in Florida...you’re right. I don’t see why so many people are trying to relate the two.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

What did NY look like in mid-late March though just before shit got really bad?

It took NY a month (April 3) to get to 100k cases and 2 more weeks to get 200k.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...tive-cases-us/