***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Do you want a third, forth, and fifth wave mister?!?!,

Go fourth, and be an idiot.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by srvy

Not a loss and I quit going to Westport when I turned 30.

You’re older than a dinosaur.

You shouldn’t be out at all in this since you’re in the at risk group and no one wants to wear a mask to protect you.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So the vulnerable people who are killed by others acting "selfishly" with regards to transmitting viruses aren't worth the consideration unless a specific amount of them are killed in a certain time frame?

Is it a time thing or just a certain body count that needs to be reached in order for these mandates to be put in place?

I mean i think this should have been put into place from day one. Everywhere. The big issue in the US is the lack of response. We shut things down too late and were too slow to start testing.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Whoa, no way, more testing equals more positives?!?! I never would have guessed that would happen. How's the death rate doing?



Enjoy your fear porn circle jerk.

To be fair, we are testing more people than we were in Mar and April. It's also easier to get a test around here. So just because there are 30-40k Covid-19 new cases a day now, may only be like 25k cases in April due to more asymptomatic people being able to be tested and included in the daily numbers.

Here is where you can go now in Kansas City for free, almost anytime you want.

https://www.kcmo.gov/city-hall/depar...ting-locations

[Demonpenz]

you are def more likely to eat a bullet than rona in Westport I saw a fight at like 6 pm at harpos.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

So here's a question i have that i haven't seen discussed much, or maybe i just missed the discussion.

On average the number of deaths from pneumonia is somewhere around 55k in the US but according to the link below we are already over 111k this year. Does that mean we have a ton of deaths misdiagnosed as pneumonia when they were actually Covid. Making the total number of deaths closer to 160k?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ia-and-flu-us/

[Demonpenz]

we need to shut things down for real for a month no half measures

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

we need to shut things down for real for a month no half measures

Pass that’s how you get a third wave

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

we need to shut things down for real for a month no half measures

Tell Trump to send out more checks, I'll stay home for a month again.

[BigCatDaddy]

Sweet double header!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...HnupqDPQdoMLwY

[lewdog]

Surge plans activated in AZ hospitals.

They are using pediatric ICU beds to house COVID adults.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ty/3266635001/

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Pass that’s how you get a third wave

Yeah. Staying at home is what would cause a third wave. The virus evolve into a disease in mice. It will then hijack their brain and instruct them to gnaw into everyones home and bite them when they are sleeping.

So I think that is the only way that would work? How do you think infectious diseases spread? From drywall or through the television set? I'm confused heere.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BWillie

To be fair, we are testing more people than we were in Mar and April. It's also easier to get a test around here. So just because there are 30-40k Covid-19 new cases a day now, may only be like 25k cases in April due to more asymptomatic people being able to be tested and included in the daily numbers.

Here is where you can go now in Kansas City for free, almost anytime you want.

https://www.kcmo.gov/city-hall/depar...ting-locations

And people realize who's getting tested.... right? It's not just door-to-door.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yeah. Staying at home is what would cause a third wave. The virus evolve into a disease in mice. It will then hijack their brain and instruct them to gnaw into everyones home and bite them when they are sleeping.

So I think that is the only way that would work? How do you think infectious diseases spread? From drywall or through the television set? I'm confused heere.

A lot of cases have been spread by people living within the same household.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Surge plans activated in AZ hospitals.

They are using pediatric ICU beds to house COVID adults.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ty/3266635001/

*looks at a traffic map of I-17*