***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

All hospitals are urged to be enacting emergency protocols as of yesterday’s state of emergency. Part of that is limiting new patients and elective surgeries to keep space available. That message from them is likely not unique at all and doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with having that patient.

Well he had an elective surgery Tuesday and they made him another appt for next Tuesday yesterday.


Seems stupid if they are keeping space available

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

My friend would have never came around if he had known there was any chance of him being exposed. But they didn’t tell him.

Not being a dick, but why did you let him come around? I'm probably in the vast minority, but I just presume that everyone has this, and I act accordingly. No unnecessary touching. No unnecessary visits.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

From someone who could get in trouble for telling me...

And they didn’t know for sure Wednesday but they were pretty sure what it was

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Well they call it Death Valley hospital instead of golden valley around here. I’m definitely not the only one that has had terrible experiences there.


And yes I’m emotional about this, I have a disabled daughter that has had major respiratory and heart issues in the part couple of years .

My friend would have never came around if he had known there was any chance of him being exposed. But they didn’t tell him.

Hell they made him another appt yesterday so he could come back into it.
They are idiots

I understand, and I'm sorry for your situation.

The nickname for the hospital came about a very long time ago, and my understanding is they have made some significant changes since then.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Well he had an elective surgery Tuesday and they made him another appt for next Tuesday yesterday.





Seems stupid if they are keeping space available

Well he had the surgery so they can’t just leave him hanging and not do appropriate follow ups on it.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Not being a dick, but why did you let him come around? I'm probably in the vast minority, but I just presume that everyone has this, and I act accordingly. No unnecessary touching. No unnecessary visits.

People come around the shop all the time. It’s a shop, you ever been in one?

[Fish]

Coronavirus: Spanish cases up by 1,500 in a day

Coronavirus cases in Spain have risen by 1,500 to more than 5,700, public health officials say.

Spain is the worst affected country in Europe after Italy, which has more than 15,000 cases.

The Spanish government is set to announce a lockdown as part of a national state of emergency, according to local media reports.

On Friday, the World Health Organization (WHO) said Europe was now the "epicentre" of the pandemic.

Director General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged countries to use aggressive measures, community mobilisation and social distancing to save lives.

Several European countries have reported steep rises in infections and deaths in recent days.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

People come around the shop all the time. It’s a shop, you ever been in one?

Yes, I've been in a shop. Is he a customer, or was it a social visit?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I've been in a shop. Is he a customer, or was it a social visit?

Both. I do tons of work for him.

T

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I understand, and I'm sorry for your situation.

The nickname for the hospital came about a very long time ago, and my understanding is they have made some significant changes since then.

They haven’t.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I understand, and I'm sorry for your situation.

The nickname for the hospital came about a very long time ago, and my understanding is they have made some significant changes since then.

They haven't. They outsource all the ER doctors and my dad was having a stroke then a seizure and the ER doctor just stared at him and did nothing until I started yelling at him to do something. I should have sued their ass

[F150]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They haven't. They outsource all the ER doctors and my dad was having a stroke then a seizure and the ER doctor just stared at him and did nothing until I started yelling at him to do something. I should have sued their ass

https://fox4kc.com/news/hospital-in-...oa846U55FuwTUo


Better report. They only diverted whilst the suspected case was there....

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They haven't. They outsource all the ER doctors and my dad was having a stroke then a seizure and the ER doctor just stared at him and did nothing until I started yelling at him to do something. I should have sued their ass

Fair enough, be mindful that most hospitals outsource ED physicians. Very few are employed by the hospital, especially in small towns.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Fish

Coronavirus: Spanish cases up by 1,500 in a day

Coronavirus cases in Spain have risen by 1,500 to more than 5,700, public health officials say.

Spain is the worst affected country in Europe after Italy, which has more than 15,000 cases.

The Spanish government is set to announce a lockdown as part of a national state of emergency, according to local media reports.

On Friday, the World Health Organization (WHO) said Europe was now the "epicentre" of the pandemic.

Director General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged countries to use aggressive measures, community mobilisation and social distancing to save lives.

Several European countries have reported steep rises in infections and deaths in recent days.

This is what I'm afraid of in the US. Numbers are certainly going to rise as we do more testing. Are people going to flip their shit when they see the number of positive cases go up?

[DJJasonp]

i had a doctor appointment yesterday (vertigo).....and my doc told me that this time next week, I wouldnt be able to be seen for that type of symptom/ailment.

All non-essential health issues would be denied an in-person appointment.