***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Remember when having < 1000 deaths a day was a good thing? We have had >1000 deaths twice this month. Something to keep in mind as everyone is screaming the world is ending....again.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

And that ridiculous estimate is all the proof you have that any of this onerous "mitigation" accomplished anything.

Watched influenza for years? So you admit you actively had to seek the numbers and weren't force fed the info every single day?

Deaths and cases aren't the same thing. I couldn't give a shit less how many positive tests there are. It's a stupid metric.

There is plenty of data to support the use of mitigation. The R0 in France was reduced by over 70 percent with mitigation strategies. Fewer infections means fewer deaths since you can't die of COVID without catching the virus.

[jdubya]

According to my models, without mitigation BILLIONS and BILLIONS would have died. I`m so glad my models helped.

[DaFace]

For those who seem to be doubting that mitigation efforts made any difference, what ELSE do you think caused the growth to slow down?

(Herd immunity isn't a valid response, as no antibody test out there has shown more than a small percentage of people in even the worst-hit areas to have antibodies.)

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Without leadership how would we know to inject bleach

You have the media to thank for that. If you're stupid enough to think of drinking bleach after hearing your President talk, you may need to just go ahead and do that and save the rest of society from having to deal with you.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The population of the US is 330 million
The population of the EU is 446 million

[source https://t.co/JtQgQFMvj9] pic.twitter.com/DAVWfkIW15

— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) June 16, 2020

Leadership and freedom

Whoa, no way, more testing equals more positives?!?! I never would have guessed that would happen. How's the death rate doing?



Enjoy your fear porn circle jerk.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DaFace

For those who seem to be doubting that mitigation efforts made any difference, what ELSE do you think caused the growth to slow down?

(Herd immunity isn't a valid response, as no antibody test out there has shown more than a small percentage of people in even the worst-hit areas to have antibodies.)

Not necessarily doubting the effectiveness of distancing and the rest, but how about the thought that the virus has been on our shores way longer than reported?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Whoa, no way, more testing equals more positives?!?! I never would have guessed that would happen. How's the death rate doing?



Enjoy your fear porn circle jerk.

What state is that from?

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by petegz28

As of now there have been 27,782,538 tests given.
As of now we have a total of 2.3m cases
As of now we have 1.7m active cases

It would be nice to see a breakdown of the total cases on asymptomatic, symptomatic, mild, severe, etc.

Originally Posted by DaFace

For those who seem to be doubting that mitigation efforts made any difference, what ELSE do you think caused the growth to slow down?

(Herd immunity isn't a valid response, as no antibody test out there has shown more than a small percentage of people in even the worst-hit areas to have antibodies.)

So what do think about the case with a woman having it and getting over it , the4-4 months later testing positive for it?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

What state is that from?

That would be the state of the United States of America. Also known to many as "country".

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That would be the state of the United States of America. Also known to many as "country".

You have a link to that graph?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by stumppy

You have a link to that graph?

https://static.thegatewaypundit.com/...vid-deaths.jpg

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

https://static.thegatewaypundit.com/...vid-deaths.jpg

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

You have the media to thank for that. If you're stupid enough to think of drinking bleach after hearing your President talk, you may need to just go ahead and do that and save the rest of society from having to deal with you.

Post needs 20% more coy.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That would be the state of the United States of America. Also known to many as "country".

Actually, I probably should have phrased that better.

How's this:

I don't believe a ****ing word he says or posts without verifiable proof.