***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Manhattan is my favorite.

Dude me too.

Not even kidding.

I’m having one or 5 tomorrow. Thanks!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Dude me too.

Not even kidding.

I’m having one or 5 tomorrow. Thanks!

Great minds and what not.

Ever had a Black Manhattan? I had one for the first time a couple weeks ago. Traditionally they use averna instead of vermouth and use orange bitters. But the place I went to used both vermouth and averna as well as orange and angostura bitters.

Also, I use antica instead of cheap vermouth.

And always up. None of that "on the rocks" shit.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Great minds and what not.

Ever had a Black Manhattan? I had one for the first time a couple weeks ago. Traditionally they use averna instead of vermouth and use orange bitters. But the place I went to used both vermouth and averna as well as orange and angostura bitters.

Also, I use antica instead of cheap vermouth.

And always up. None of that "on the rocks" shit.

All good information. I have never heard of that. Very interesting and I may look for it.

And I need to up my vermouth game. I use the cheaper stuff and I realize I am bastardizing the drink. I always add both orange and angostura bitter to mine. I usually have mine straight up but will occasionally pour over an ice sphere. The rocks shit just waters it down too quick.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

All good information. I have never heard of that. Very interesting and I may look for it.

And I need to up my vermouth game. I use the cheaper stuff and I realize I am bastardizing the drink. I always add both orange and angostura bitter to mine. I usually have mine straight up but will occasionally pour over an ice sphere. The rocks shit just waters it down too quick.

Try spiced cherry bitters. That's my favorite. And if you are going to use cheap vermouth get at least Martini & Rossi. Don't go for that super cheap shit. The better the vermouth the better the cocktail. Olive & Ivy is who turned me onto Antica. They make great Manhattans and their fillets, OMFG. Dude I live in KC which is like the kingdom of steaks and Olive & Ivy's fillet is arguably the best ****ing steak I have ever had.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Just learned of the passing of a person I worked with in college in my early 20’s. Died from COVID. No health issues back then but a lot can change in 15 years. We haven’t stayed in touch so I don’t know much else.

He was 39 years old.

Sorry for ur loss thats crazy. Almost assuredly had a comorbidity but you never know. Buddy of mine had it from start to finish and had zero symptoms. Perhaps it depends on other Coronaviruses one was exposed to in their youth.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Try spiced cherry bitters. That's my favorite. And if you are going to use cheap vermouth get at least Martini & Rossi. Don't go for that super cheap shit. The better the vermouth the better the cocktail. Olive & Ivy is who turned me onto Antica. They make great Manhattans and their fillets, OMFG. Dude I live in KC which is like the kingdom of steaks and Olive & Ivy's fillet is arguably the best ****ing steak I have ever had.

I have Gallo.....

Just saw the Woodford spiced cherry bitters on amazon. You tried those?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I have Gallo.....

Just saw the Woodford spiced cherry bitters on amazon. You tried those?

Yes they are my favorite. I use them more than any others. And dump that Gallo crap in the toilet. That's what I started with then I used some real vermouth and life got much better.

And don't be afraid to switch up your whisky. I know standard is to use rye but Elijah Craig and Maker's 46 makes some pretty sweet Manhattys!

[eDave]

Got denied entrance to Circle K last night for not wearing a mask. I totally forgot.

I've since learned that our ordinance comes with an exemption for people whose religious beliefs prevent them from wearing a face covering. So I guess one could just say that and be let right on in.

[petegz28]

This is allegedly from AZ......I just wanna ask as I think we will see similar across the country....who was out in the streets night after night after night after night after night after night en masse?

[Donger]

33,539 new cases yesterday. Yay. Morons.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

This is allegedly from AZ......I just wanna ask as I think we will see similar across the country....who was out in the streets night after night after night after night after night after night en masse?

I get what you are inferring and agree. Also consider that throughout the city, regular old Phoenix people have been out like that too in greater numbers overall. Tempe, Old Towne Scottsdale, Downtown, CASINO's have been business as usual, drawing their signature large crowds. I don't know if the new mask ordinance will affect those popular party areas but me and my friends weren't feeling going out like usual last night due to having to wear a mask.

The largest casino chain here shut down again after a worker died a couple of weeks after returning to work.

[Bugeater]

Casinos...now there's something that has no need to be in operation right now. Good lord.

[jjjayb]

Everyone could use a good laugh about now.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Everyone could use a good laugh about now.

Sounds like he posts in CPDC.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Got denied entrance to Circle K last night for not wearing a mask. I totally forgot.

I've since learned that our ordinance comes with an exemption for people whose religious beliefs prevent them from wearing a face covering. So I guess one could just say that and be let right on in.

You could, just to be a dick....or you could just wear it because it's an easy thing to do